The other day, I found out Conspirator was out by seeing it on the publisher’s website. I’m pretty sure this is the first time I’ve ever done that. Before I started writing here I never went to publishers’ websites—these days I have very firm opinions about them, and which ones are good, but before that even though I am in their core constituency, the publishers might as well have saved their HTML to cool their porridge as far as I was concerned.
The most common way I have historically found out that a book exists is to find it on the shelf in a bookshop. I will always remember the day when I literally screamed with surprised delight when I saw The Sign of The Unicorn on the shelf in Chapter and Verse—I’d read the first two, and it was immediately apparent that this was an Amber sequel, but I had no idea that there would ever be such a thing. These days, that’s a lot more unusual, and not just because I’m no longer fourteen. I often know about books before they’re published. I’m waiting for them. I read about them on writers’ blogs, or I see them listed in Locus, or I read reviews here, on on my friends’ blogs. I tend to hang out where people are talking about books. These days the books that surprise me in the bookshop tend to be non-genre books. I was surprised by the new A.S. Byatt while I was buying Conspirator.
Waiting for books that aren’t out yet is like waiting for next winter’s snows. I know they’re coming, but nothing I can do can make them get here faster.
A lot of the time, even though I know a book is on the way, I’ll find out that it’s actually been released because somebody will mention it online. Often one of my livejournal friends will say something like “Picked up Corambis!” Then, depending on how urgently I want it, I rush out immediately, or I make a mental note to check for it when I’m next in the bookshop, or I log in to the Grande Bibliotheque and see if they’re buying it, and if so, put in a reservation. Unlike many people I know, although I buy plenty of books I also continue to use libraries extensively.
The disadvantage of relying on word of mouth is that I can miss things people aren’t talking about. I’ll mostly spot them in the bookshop, because it’s not as if I don’t check the shelves obsessively every time I’m there. A Fistful of Sky was one of those—I had a “Where did that come from?” moment.
I was wondering how typical all this is, how other people these days find out that books they want exist, and that they’re out. Do you rely on spotting it on the shelves? Or word of mouth? Or do you check publishers’ websites? How about the “new books” listing on Locus online? Or are there other methods I should consider taking up?
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Hate waiting for the next book in a series. Hate, hate, hate. I read fast enough that I'll just buy a whole series at a swoop, and avoid getting into a series in progress.
Friday May 15, 2009 04:36pm EDT
I had been listening to Adventures in SciFi Publishing ([url]http://www.adventuresinscifipublishing.com/[/url]), but unfortunately they are on hiatus for at least the next year (good backlog of interviews though). Here's hoping that comes back strong (and maybe sooner rather than later).
And there's always the one that got me started listening to podcasts in the first place - DragonPage Cover2Cover at [url]http://www.dragonpage.com[/url]. Michael Stackpole (yes, THAT Michael Stackpole), and Michael Mennenga do a great job of staying on top of what's coming out, and again, lots of great interviews.
VIEW ALL BY · Friday May 15, 2009 04:49pm EDT
I've also used Amazon recommends a couple of times. And chased down books by authors whose short fiction I've enjoyed, and also followed the book recommendations of author's I respect.
I do browse bookshelves in stores, but I really don't buy that many books (at least I didn't before my Audible subscription), so that's more just for the pleasures of bibliophilia than actually for purchasing something. If I do see something in the stores I'll go on-line and check out reviews, etc before buying anything, and usually it just goes on my ever-expanding Amazon wishlist.
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I use publishers' sites only when I'm looking for an author who doesn't have a site of their own. Once or twice I've signed up for the publisher's email notification of new releases, but I've never actually received one. Ditto Amazon's, come to think of it. I'd rather have a feed than an email, anyway; the email is all too likely to get eaten by my spam filters.
IOW, authors without blogs are generally not on my radar unless they're very popular and thus likely to be brought up in conversation.
I would love NY publishers to be as communicative as Subterranean Press is. SubT announces new acquisitions in its email newsletter and then periodically mentions the production status ("Got cover art," "shipping next week," etc.) -- and the order link is included every time the book is mentioned. Pretty effective marketing, judging by my credit card statements. (Plus, there are seldom any nasty surprises about delayed manuscripts. I've had a couple of Amazon pre-orders abruptly canceled recently. Not my favorite way of finding out there's a problem.) I'd love SubT's updates even more as a blog, because I can't easily link to or tweet the email newsletter.
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http://www.poisonedpen.com/current-booknews
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I also rely on publishers like you, Lou, who are proactive in putting out blog posts and newsletters about forthcoming books in your imprint. I'll often do more research (visit the author's website, visit amazon, etc) but it provides a nice heads up to add to some of the ideas mentioned above.
That's how you, ahem, hooked me on a few of your authors... :)
VIEW ALL BY · Friday May 15, 2009 06:45pm EDT
The last book I read that I was previously unaware of was Patient Zero - I saw a banner ad which linked to a blog post containing the first couple chapters and I was hooked.
Similarly, I plan to get Norse Code, which has recently been playing on the banners here as well as featured in a post or two.
VIEW ALL BY · Friday May 15, 2009 07:09pm EDT
Also, I kind of enjoy seeing when a favorite author is done with the book, or done with page proofs. I don't need daily word counts, but since I know a book usually comes out about a year after turn-in, it's easier to cherish hope. Daily page counts aren't necessary for me to keep stalking. (really, in a lot of cases, a finished book isn't needed... authors I like tend to write pretty vividly about things as objectively boring as a dog who likes to eat mulch)
Friday May 15, 2009 07:26pm EDT
I spend a lot of my time reading OLD books though -- finding an author I like and devouring their backlist.
VIEW ALL BY · Friday May 15, 2009 07:36pm EDT
But, my usual MO is actually the bookstore. I love to just peruse the SFF section and read back-covers/duskjackets. Fairly hit or miss on whether I like it or not, but its a grand adventure.
I do get occasional friend recommendations, which got me into Wheel of Time and Sword of Truth, and occasionally meeting an author can inspire me to buy (best example is when I met Pat Rothfuss at DragonCon). So I guess I'm all over the place. Keeps me busy.
VIEW ALL BY · Friday May 15, 2009 08:05pm EDT
However, I also check upcoming books on Amazon.com and the Barnes & Noble site.
Unfortunately, I don't live near any of the bigger books stores to browse like I've done in the past.
VIEW ALL BY · Friday May 15, 2009 08:21pm EDT
As a consequence, I usually find new books online. However, it's hit or miss. Sometimes I don't find out about books until several years after they've been published.
The Tor ebook giveaway that inaugurated this site introduced me to authors I've since read with pleasure. I wish there were something like a First Page SF site where I could read the first page of every new book that came out (from reputable publishers, that is). Or perhaps just a first para. If you like that, click through for first page. If you like that, click through for first chapter. If you like that, then you can buy the ebook :)
VIEW ALL BY · Friday May 15, 2009 08:43pm EDT
I do keep an eye on my friends' reading with Goodreads and LibraryThing, and if I see one of their reviews that looks interesting, it's easy to add it to a 'to-read' category and never lose it again. And of course, friends often insist I MUST READ such-and-such when we're gabbing in person.
Since the advent of the shiny new Tor.com, there have been several additions to my to-read list inspired by Jo Walton reviews here. To a lesser extent I add books, especially non-fiction books, from blog mentions.
Friday May 15, 2009 08:57pm EDT
scifi.com used to be a great source of new book recommendations. They had 2 or 3 new reviews a week. The reviewers were SF writers themselves, and the books were rated (A, B, C). Then the site was overhauled and the book reviews disappeared. Does anyone know of something similar? SFsite.com is OK, but they don't review that many books.
Publisher sites are good for notice of something specific, or if they post an excerpt.
Going cold to the bookstore doesn't work for me. I need a LIST, d***it.
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Beyond that, I scour Amazon.com and use their Wish List feature as a way to track authors and books I know are coming out, cross-referencing it with Barnes and Noble's site to know when something's hit my area. Amazon is good because they have suggestions, like "People who bought X, also bought Y and Z..."
Beyond THAT, there's the Locus list. And http://www.scifiguy.ca/search/label/Forthcoming%20Books and http://walkerofworlds.blogspot.com/ and http://tezmilleroz.wordpress.com/.
As a reviewer, I also get catalogs from some publishers, and books in the mail.
I also scour every bookstore I come across, because my methods are still not thorough enough for my tastes, and I'm still likely to stumble across things I wouldn't have known about otherwise, either from new authors or ones who snuck up on me.
In short, I get most of my information from the Internet.
Shireling: I personally recommend SF Site, even though they don't review as many books as I'd like, and Green Man Review (www.greenmanreview.com).
For me, hunting books is a constant thing, full of strange and wonderful treasures.
Saturday May 16, 2009 05:10am EDT
I read the reviews in Locus, Fantasy and Science Fiction, Asimov and Analog. For the last several years, most of my discoveries have come from those reviews, especially the Locus reviews. I still browse book stores and sometimes something will catch my eye. Sometimes a friend will recommend a new story or author.
I can't remember the last time I discovered a new author or story via an online source. It certainly has not happened very often.
VIEW ALL BY · Saturday May 16, 2009 07:18am EDT
For "mainstream" releases, there's not a comparable single resource (unfortunately). I find out about many titles from the reviews in the New York Times Book Review, though I've seen a narrowing of the scope of what they cover over the past few years. Like many of the previous commenters, I've found out about books through Amazon recommendations (both US and UK), and author Web sites and blogs are also becoming increasingly useful.
As an aside, about 80 percent of what I read I obtain through the public library. The rest--titles that aren't available from the library or are by authors I collect--I purchase from Amazon or the publishers' sites.
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Also, I have this neighbour who read a lot and who often recommends great books (old and new) I didn't know ;)
VIEW ALL BY · Saturday May 16, 2009 10:24am EDT
On the other hand, if Oprah recommends something, I promptly run the other way. The net is the fastest way to filter through info sometimes. But it has it's own way of editing content, so it is nice to sometimes touch a real book and see what's inside.
Saturday May 16, 2009 10:27am EDT
I'll still see new books, or books from yet unknown authors, in the bookstore (it's one reason I go!), but usually if (say) David Weber or that Robert Jordan guy are publishing something new, I heard about it from Amazon a year ago and pre-ordered, or something like that.
This does bring up the very important difference between searching and browsing, in the Internet era. Searching is "Google me this thing I want", and it works very well and lots of effort has been exerted to make it so... if you know what you want.
Browsing is serendipity, "I never knew THIS existed... IT MUST BE MINE!", and it's one reason I expect bookstores to continue to flourish. Though sites like this one, or favorite blogs, also bring up things I hadn't known I wanted until I read about them. (Some blogs are very very good at recommending stuff I'll at least take another look at, which is I read them... focused serendipity, not quite surprise.)
But surprise will always have a role to play.
VIEW ALL BY · Saturday May 16, 2009 11:33am EDT
Like several others, Amazon is a fabulous resource lately. I've purchased enough books through them that the recommendations are getting pretty good. I really love that they notify me when new books by authors I've read before are coming out so I can pre-order.
Saturday May 16, 2009 01:32pm EDT
But this is the first I've heard of A.S. Byatt's new book -- so thanks, Jo, because now my wish list is one book longer!
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I have one friend whose tastes run alongside mine sometimes, so I've gotten a few out of him. Mostly, though, I find books by digging through recommendations/currently reading lists at the previously mentioned sites.
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Sunday May 17, 2009 07:21pm EDT
After I became a reviewer for Booklist I pretty much hit the holy grail of book news - the magazine comes every two weeks and its full of new releases. That pretty much covers everything I don't find from book blogs.
I also second what was said above about Subterranean Press and Powells Books blog; both are great resources. I do follow several author blogs but not so much to learn about their new books (which I do appreciate staying on top of) but also because I find their blogs generally entertaining. Cherie Priest has an excellent blog for example.
Sunday May 17, 2009 07:24pm EDT
With the decline in independent bookstores, the proliferation of small presses, and the still daunting challenge of finding the info you really want online, this is a serious issue that I've been suggesting as a con panel topic for a year or two.
The diversity of answers here reconfirms the problem.
VIEW ALL BY · Tuesday May 19, 2009 06:26pm EDT
To see if a favorite author has a new book coming up, I rely heavily on Fantastic Fiction. They have "coming soon" lists that can be sorted by genre, but I don't use those much.
VIEW ALL BY · Friday May 22, 2009 08:36pm EDT
For favorite authors, I regularly check Amazon to see if there's a new book forthcoming (and often go ahead and preorder it if there is one), though after Amazonfail and various of their doings I'm debating whether I want to continue giving Amazon my book dollars.
My library's online hold system also helps. When I see a book that sounds interesting and that's been out a while, I can check the library catalog and reserve it if they have it; a few days later, they email me to come to my local branch to pick it up. (And if the book's too new for the library to have, I stick it on a separate Amazon wishlist for books I want to check out at the library, and six months later when they have it I'll be reminded of it.)
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