Rereading The Ruin of Kings: Chapters 44 and 45

@ #1:

Try living in actual Hollywood, then - or rather, don't. ;)

Rereading The Ruin of Kings: Chapters 38 and 39

 I don't remember the book saying anything about gender-switching reincarnation, but just because no one said it doesn't mean it could happen. (And just because I don't remember it doesn't mean no one said it.)

Rereading The Ruin of Kings: Chapters 42 and 43

Don’t worry, Leigh, he went to a nice farm upstate. With whole fuzzy blankets full of kittens at his disposal.



(And, your point is taken. I for one will be very pleased if he comes back.)

Rereading The Ruin of Kings: Chapters 32 and 33

Thanks, guys! It's good to know y'all are following along!

Rereading The Ruin of Kings: Chapters 32 and 33

necessary_eagle @1:

Aw, thanks for letting me know. I'm glad you're enjoying it!

Rereading The Ruin of Kings: Chapters 26 and 27


True, but I am not so cavalier about switching bodies that I would be like, wevs, new body! I suppose you could always make sure you only get murdered by people who are prettier than you are, but that seems like a lot of work. ;)


Rereading The Ruin of Kings: Chapters 18 and 19

Dajug45 @1:

I remember the book saying the Supreme Demon that used to be Kihrin/Talon (yes, I know this is confusing) is draining the energy from the sun slowly as that was his avatar. Or something.

I don't remember reading that at all, actually! But then I know I missed/forgot a lot. I'll be interested to see when that comes up again if you're right.


Marbelcal @2:

Inverting or deconstructing tropes seems to be a hobby of hers, yes. :)

Why We Still Love Hocus Pocus 25 Years Later

Austin @6:

Not over, maybe, but definitely on hiatus for the foreseeable future. I should have made an announcement to that effect, but basically what happened was my and my sisters' lives all kind of blew up simultaneously this year, and it became near-impossible to get us all together long enough to do the MRGN justice. I reserve the right for us to come back and do another at some point, though!

Why We Still Love Hocus Pocus 25 Years Later

LadyGayle @2: Sorry, that was also pointed out in the original post, but going back and editing it wasn't possible at the time, and later I, er, forgot. But I still stand corrected!

Wheel of Time News! Opinions! Casting Suggestions, Revisited!

Anthony Pero @23: Your point is taken, but there are definitely ways to lean more one way or the other. 

Also, Eva Green would make a great Aes Sedai, but I think she would do better as one of the Black Ajah; she gives great villain. (Alternately, Alanna.)

And of course it doesn't matter how old Kate Beckinsale is, she's a vampire.

Wheel of Time News! Opinions! Casting Suggestions, Revisited!

djizeus @15:

Morena Baccarin would also be a marvelous Moiraine, and I could get behind Ming-Na Wen as well.

Wheel of Time News! Opinions! Casting Suggestions, Revisited!

Lassar @1:

Man, Kathy Bates would make a great Verin. Good suggestion!

Examining a New Beginning: Jenn Lyons’ The Ruin of Kings

simka and Paul Weimer: Thanks!

DemetriosX: Well, but that's also what I noted in the Ruin of Kings opening: Kihrin's slave auction scene could be viewed as either in medias res or Ordinary World. A case can be made for both, just as with the Bond film openings. 

Anthony Pero: It's beginning. ;)

Vanity, Patriarchy, and Futility: Death Becomes Her

Ha ha, awesome. I particularly enjoyed the tongue-in-cheek framing of Helen and Madeline's attendance to Ernst's funeral as his failure and their triumph, when the film so clearly meant it to be the other way around.

Top Five Worst Moments of The Wheel of Time

Jaaxter @4:

....Holy crap. Uh, you are completely correct, and the post has been edited accordingly. Thanks!

“Bonjour, Je Veux Mon Livre”: Hocus Pocus

Victoria Hannah @8: Thanks for the information!

And yes, the sisters do get hanged in the movie, so at least the filmmakers got it right. It's probably not surprising, in retrospect, that the Daily Mail got it wrong; if I had realized what publication I was linking to I would have picked another one.

“Bonjour, Je Veux Mon Livre”: Hocus Pocus

RobMRobM @1: Holy shirtballs, I totally forgot them! Bad Leigh.

I'll stick 'em here for the record:

Nostalgia: 8

Reality: 9

Still Not a Relic: Raiders of the Lost Ark

[email protected]:

I always preferred to believe that Indy and Marion being there to be worthy of taking the Ark away (or at least less unworthy than a bunch of Nazis) was what kept it from unleashing a hell of a lot more destruction on everything than just localized face melting.

Granted, this is a rationalization I have totally invented in my own head, so take it for what it's worth, but it does tie in with Indy later being judged worthy to take the Grail in Last Crusade. I'm just saying!

At Least It’s Not Grain Storage: Stargate

Arthur @ 19 and 20:

Huh. I thought that looked unfamiliar. Welp.

Negative, I am a Meat Popsicle: The Fifth Element

KalvinKingsley @ 19:

It's interesting that you keep using Prince as a refutation of my assertion that Ruby is genderqueer, when in fact Prince is a genderqueer icon. 

Negative, I am a Meat Popsicle: The Fifth Element

KalvinKingsley @17:

Again, "genderqueer" has nothing to do with who a person likes to sleep with.

Negative, I am a Meat Popsicle: The Fifth Element

youngheart80 @12:

"Genderqueer" does not mean the same thing as "gay", "bisexual", or any other identifiers of a person's sexual orientation. The definition of it is "a person who does not subscribe to conventional gender distinctions but identifies with neither, both, or a combination of male and female genders." Ruby presents himself as having gender traits that are both stereotypically male and ones which are stereotypically female, and varies between them at will. This is an entirely separate question from what genders he does or does not find attractive.


Cheerio @6:

Yes, you are right that Ruby was not a new thing in this regard (and fun fact, the role of Ruby was originally designed for Prince), but Bowie and Prince were musicians much more than they were ever actors, and the music industry has historically been much more forgiving of gender nonconformity than Hollywood. All I can tell you is that in 1997, Ruby Rhod was a revelation to me even if he shouldn't have been.


Spaceballs Brakes for Nobody

MDNY @ 1: 

Hey, if I'd quoted every single great line from the movie I'd never have finished the post! Also, we deducted a point from the "Nostalgia" rating because we still watch this movie, ALL THE TIME. So I wasn't even sure if "nostalgia" applied.

ChocolateRob @ 2:

Featuring a super-young Stephen Tobolowsky!

Excitement and Dread: Looking Ahead to The Wheel of Time TV Series

Hi all,

So, never let it be said I cannot take a hint - or really accurate and voluminous error-correcting. The post has been edited accordingly.

Firewalk Without Me, Please: Firestarter

Rusty @ 2:

That scene was very well done indeed. I remember being so impressed with how well they handled it. Not a wind tunnel in sight!

Robert @ 9:

Agreed. You think they'd let me direct it? :)

Eli Bishop @ 10:

You make a good point, and I had considered the thought that Vicki's death might not count as fridging because, as you point out, it wasn't the main motivator for Andy's actions after - obviously his biggest motivation was to protect his daughter. But I left it in because even so, her character is a cipher whose only role in the story was to be a victim and die horribly, and that's close enough to fridging for government work, ha ha.

The Peril of Being Disbelieved: Horror and the Intuition of Women

As Anita Sarkeesian once pointed out, "One of the most radical things you can do is to actually believe women when they talk about their experiences." And she is right.

This was well said, thank you.

The Value of a Brilliant Ally: James Cameron

Sybylla @2:

That is an excellent point, and one I wish I had included in the article now. I loved that pilot too.


Nick31 @5:

Well said, my friend. Thank you.

A Love Letter to Ray Harryhausen: Clash of the Titans

Also, sorry for the messed-up video clips, guys. Should all be fixed now!

Go On Home and Stop Smoking Scrolls: The Golden Child

I love that so many of y'all immediately came up with more example of the Passed Over For Hero Promotion trope, that makes me happy.

[email protected]:

Exactly. It's not the actual "clueless protagonist" trope I'm objecting to; it's that it nearly always ends up being a guy.

SunDriedRainbow @13:

The description of this movie, unfortunately, does not ring a bell with me. Anyone else know what this is?

Ryamano @15:

Trinity Syndrome! I knew I couldn't have been the only one needing a name for it. Oh well. (I still like my name for it better, nyah!)


Meaningful Ladies in My Fiction: Red Sonja

Sybylla @1: That's probably because I never saw The Last Dragon. I was too busy having a crush on The Karate Kid, heh.


wizard clip @7: Thank you for the correction!


Eric F @8: Yay! Glad I could be the first!

Lolly, Lolly, Lolly, Get Your Childhood Trauma Here: Poltergeist

Hi guys,

I meant to let you know sooner, but: owing to Reasons (mostly involving avoiding having to post on Thanksgiving), the MRGN post will go up next Thursday instead of, er, yesterday. Sorry if there was any confusion. See you then!

Lolly, Lolly, Lolly, Get Your Childhood Trauma Here: Poltergeist

macster @3:

I did not know that, and if I had been Jo Beth Williams I would never in a billion years have agreed to do the scene. EEEEEEK

Rob @9:

Oh, Spaceballs is almost definitely happening at some point.

Nick31 @10:

I'm fairly sure Poltergeist invented that trope, in fact.

Owlay @16:

I have not! I shall have to track it down.

The Last Starfighter: It’s Interstellar!

Hey guys, 

Just a quick note to let you know the post has been updated to reflect that instead of doing Red Sonja next time, we decided it would be more appropriate to the Halloween season to indulge in our need for more Fairuza Balk - and Tim Curry! - in our lives, and review 1986's The Worst Witch instead! Huzzah!

The Last Starfighter: It’s Interstellar!

ShaggyBella @ 1: I actually thought about the Ender's Game connection but forgot to mention it. Kudos for pointing it out.

StrongDreams @4: I forgot how the "plot" for the conflict went almost as soon as I saw it, because clearly the actual plot of the movie was of the least concern to anyone involved, so I'll take your word for it.

hoopmanjh @6: On further research, apparently there were plans for a game but it never actually happened?

And no, you are not the only one.

Anthony Pero @14 & 15: I've never seen a movie at a drive-in. It's something I really would like to fix someday.

Gremlins is on the list, but we likely won't get to it terribly soon.

SunDriedRainbow @ 20: I look forward to hearing his thoughts!

The Last Starfighter: It’s Interstellar!

Skwid @8:

The Fifth Element! That's what I was thinking of, thank you.

And yeah, as a concept it was dumb in both movies.

How Netflix and Ridley Scott Conspired To Ruin My Childhood, Sort Of: Legend

Hey guys,

I still don't know whether the next post will be up next week or pushed back - I'll let y'all know as soon as I do - but I DO know what the next post's movie is going to be: Flight of the Navigator! AWESOME. 

Watch this space for scheduling news!

The Unforgivable Crime of Deviating: Carrie (1976)

ajay @8:

It does seem to be an American thing in particular.

Also, OMG GLOW IN THE DARK JESUS. Haha, awesome. I really wish I could claim that I've never seen religious paraphernalia that cheesetastic, but it seems that extreme kitsch is another thing Americans do very well. There are whole websites devoted to collecting stuff like that.

The Unforgivable Crime of Deviating: Carrie (1976)

Magicou @4:


You're probably right that it is St. Sebastien, but I always just assumed it was Jesus with extra martyrdom, like being nailed to a cross wasn't bad enough and Carrie's mom wanted a Jesus who really really suffered for our sins. It was weird, true, but then I've never seen a depiction of the Last Supper where everyone looks like serial killers either, so clearly some poetic license was being taken all around.

The Unforgivable Crime of Deviating: Carrie (1976)

Hey guys,

After much discussion, we've decided our next MRGN post will cover 1985's Legend, because how could we not? Post edited accordingly. Yay!

Tor Books Announces New Associate Publishers

Congratulations to Patrick and to everyone on the editorial staff!

The Wheel of Time Reread Redux: The Dragon Reborn, Part 27

Hi all,

I am very sorry, but owing to a rather serious and on-going medical situation (a family member's, not mine), I was not able to finish today's Reread post. I will keep you guys posted in the comments here on what's happening next. In the meantime, please keep my family in your thoughts if you would, we've been having a rough couple of weeks. Thanks.

The Movie Rewatch of Great Nostalgia: Starman

ChristopherLBennett @4:

Thus far, TV shows aren't being included in the MRGN. If that changes, of course, I will consider it!


ChocolateRob @5:

Our criteria for picking movies is pretty unscientific at this point. It basically boils down to "whatever we think will be fun". In this case, I thought it would be interesting to watch a movie my sisters remembered but I didn't; I also thought there was a chance that once I actually started watching the film I *would* remember it. That turned out not to be the case, but it was fun anyway. It's also perfectly possible that I will choose some movies that I know for a fact I haven't seen but *should* have seen, just for contrast. It's not just my own nostalgia we're celebrating here, after all.

The Movie Rewatch of Great Nostalgia: Ghostbusters and Ghostbusters II

Robotech_Master @35:

I am woefully behind on video games in general, but if I ever get around to buying a new game system I would definitely give the Ghostbusters game a try!

The Wheel of Time Reread Redux: The Dragon Reborn, Part 25

Hey guys,

In case you didn't see, the new post went up today instead of yesterday, owing to the holiday. Sorry about the confusion!

The Wheel of Time Reread Redux: The Dragon Reborn, Part 23

Hey guys,

Sorry to flake on y'all, but for Reasons, there will be no new post today. I'll see you next week, though, promise!

The Wheel of Time Reread Redux: The Dragon Reborn, Part 15

Sorry, guys, I meant to post a comment letting you know there would be no post this week and totally spaced on it. But no fear, we'll be back on track next week!

The Wheel of Time Reread Redux: The Dragon Reborn, Part 9

Hi all,

Unfortunately there will be no new Redux post today. Check back next Tuesday for the next post, though!

The Wheel of Time Reread Redux: The Great Hunt, Part 26

Longtimelurker @9:

Um... huh. You are quite correct. Oops! Will have to fix that. Thanks for pointing it out!

The Wheel of Time Reread Redux: The Great Hunt, Part 20

Ryamano @ 6:

I wasn't referring to Moiraine's death in TFOH; I was referring to Aviendha and Mat's (temporary) deaths in Caemlyn, which are what caused Rand to lose his shit and go all KHAAAAAAAN on Rahvin.

A Read of Ice and Fire: A Dance With Dragons, Part 39

Hi guys,

Thanks for correcting me on the Ned/Catelyn/Ashara thing; the post has been updated to reflect.

Also thanks to Kate for giving me the LOTR and Bujold references; I've got new cut text now! Not that anyone sees that, usually, but it makes me happy.

A Read of Ice and Fire: A Dance With Dragons, Part 33

Owlay @29:

All of your suggestions are both hilarious and interesting. I'll keep them in mind. Maybe not the Pink Floyd one. Heh.

A Read of Ice and Fire: A Dance With Dragons, Part 33

Tabbyfl55 @22:

I wondered if anyone would catch that reference. Internet cookie for you!

The Wheel of Time Reread Redux: The Great Hunt, Part 1

birgit @ 26:


Ah, yes, that's the ones I was thinking of. Thanks!

The Wheel of Time Reread Redux: The Eye of the World, Part 28
Hi all, Owing to a family emergency and the (related) fact that I have just spent most of this past night in an ER waiting room, there is no post today. Luckily, my family member is going to be okay, but it was a little scary there for a bit. Keep us in your thoughts if you would, and I'll be back with the start of TGH next week. Cheers!
JordanCon 2015: Bride of Con Report, Part 2
R.Fife @ 5: I take back everything nice I ever said about you. EVERYTHING.
JordanCon 2015: Bride of Con Report, Part 1
Herb9844 @ 4: Yes, JordanCon is going strong and shows no signs of doing anything but getting bigger and more awesome. You can check out their website for information on next year's con soon. Lisamarie @ 8: I have not personally heard anything more about the pilot business except that there is a lawsuit in progress, but in fairness I didn't actually ask about it and haven't been keeping track online either. Sowwy. ValMar @ 10: Upon checking his website, I see that Mr. Livingston has a book called The Battle of Crecy: A Casebook in editing now, so I suspect that story and a whole lot more will be contained therein. So keep an eye out for that.
JordanCon 2015: Bride of Con Report, Part 1
Ryamano @1: ...Er. Welp, upon looking that word up, apparently it means the exact opposite of what I intended it to. Soooo, yeah. I'll be editing that. Thanks for the heads up!
A Read of Ice and Fire: A Dance with Dragons, Part 17
Hi guys, I had every intention of having a new ROIAF post ready for you today, but circumstances have intervened. Between the JordanCon report getting seriously epic and the fact that I have been sick as a dog for most of the week, anything else was just not happening. So, the Read will resume next Thursday. Thank y'all so much for your patience and support. Cheers!
The Wheel of Time Reread Redux: The Eye of the World, Part 26
Herb7331 @9: Change that to "Bourbon Street on Ash Wednesday" (i.e. the day after Mardi Gras), and you've probably got a point. Ewwwwww.
The Wheel of Time Reread Redux: The Eye of the World, Part 20
Ways @ 17: It's been pretty consistently two chapters per post. This one had three, but that's because I didn't have a lot to say about the middle one and I like to try and keep the amount of material in each post as consistent as possible. That may change later on, but for now assuming two chapters is a pretty good rule of thumb.
The Wheel of Time Reread Redux: The Eye of the World, Part 18
Hey guys, What with all the furor over the pilot, I completely forgot to mention that as this Tuesday is Mardi Gras, which is kind of a big deal in my hometown, there will be no Reread post this week. I totally should have remembered to note it, that is my bad. I hope you all have a lovely week, and see you next Tuesday!
The Wheel of Time Reread Redux: The Eye of the World, Part 9
Hey guys, Sorry, but owing to a whole host of reasons, there will be no Redux post today. Have a Happy Thanksgiving, and we'll be back next week!
A Read of Ice and Fire: ASoS Review and Predictions for A Dance with Dragons
Aeryl @ 1:
Leigh, why does Jon count as royal blood, in your opinion?
Well, I thought the Starks are all of royal blood, depending on how you define it. They were Kings of the North for forever, and even though they were downgraded to lords once the Targaryens showed up and conquered everybody, it's pretty clear from Robb's spiel that they subconsciously considered that a mere technicality. So I figure, if Melisandre considers that Mance and his baby are "royal" even though Mance was king of a people who completely *rejected* authority, then the Starks more than qualify under such loose standards.

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