@noblehunter, I’d say High Logic and (Wick)ed, with a minor direction of Mortis, and even though I said Underworld in the post, it might be more fairly called a Netherworld for the purposes of the Compass?
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Among my queer groups, we've been using those terms specifically to avoid being exclusionary by leaving space for the fact that we can’t know how people identify unless they tell us - but obviously I'll update my terms if there are better ones! Language evolves constantly, but it’s on me to keep up. :) Tor.com is inclusive and welcoming to people of good faith, and I always want to make sure everyone feels comfortable and safe on the site.
@4 and @5 - It seems to be part of a fleet, since Hugh Laurie's character is also referenced as the captain of Avenue 3? But we haven't been told yet how many ships Judd Galaxy has, or if there are any others out on cruises. I'm assuming there's a joke hidden in there somewhere that'll be explained in a later episode.
@10: I would guess not turning Veidt in when he learned the truth? Since there was about a decade when Redford knew, but kept the secret, before Veidt was zapped to Europa and eventually presumed dead. Keeping the secret does seem like the Greater Good in some ways, but he is still abetting a mass murderer technically.
And also he allowed a LOT of squid deaths. Poor little suckers.
Spoilers for Veidt's escape!
He used clone corpses to spell out the words "Save Me Daughter" - an allusion to the Black Freighter comics in the Watchmenverse - and timed it so that Trieu's satellite would pick the image up. Since she told him when she'd first received signs of Manhattan's presence, he was able to time when to create the message to have the best shot at getting her attention. And she sent a space capsule to retrieve him and bring him back to Earth - but obviously it was more as an opportunity to diss him than to rescue him.
ooooh I like that! I mean, I hate it, it's awful, but I love that as a theory. And that would add an interesting angle to the spikiness between Laurie, Trieu, and Angela, if they're all entangled.
Yes! I was putting him on our moon, at first, but OF COURSE that was Jupiter. Sometimes I'm a dummy and post too fast. That makes his situation even more precarious, though. Plus it kinda messes up my Chairface Chippendale joke, but, whatever, show. You do what you want.
Other thing: I think y'all are correct about it being an episode of American Hero Story, and not porn - although I'd still assume that there hero porn in this universe - but I'm still pleased about the fact that the framing of the scene is all about Hooded Justice wanting to keep his identity secret. It was a nice layer to add to the show. Although I, too, am nervous about them sticking the landing with the way they're treating the progressive Redford Era - so far I think they've done well with it, at least for me. Like I thought the slight jab at the content warning that played before AHS was more about the length of the warning, rather than mocking the concept of a warning. But we'll see! I have a lot of hope, because so far each week has been better than the last, and next week's ep looks AMAZING.
Good points, @2 and @3, that couldn't have been the car! The hazards of writing the post super fast while you're watching the show. :)
I am ridiculously excited for next week's Wade episode - I like him so much, but I'm trying not to get too attached since my favorite characters always meet bad ends.
@4: Whoops, I think you're right! I've updated the post accordingly. Thanks for the catch!
@4: Whoops, I did in fact cite the wrong person! Thank you for pointing my flub out, Snowcrash - I'll hop in and update the post.
@5: It's a (slight! loving!) dig at L'Engle, who had characters in a few of her books argue about how the different spellings of "grey" changed the word's tone. I actually agree with her - but it also amuses me. :)
@3: Thanks for the correction! We've updated the post.
@5 and @6: It really does feel like if the "Shaun's Mum" scene was an entire movie, and I mean that in the best way.
@2: I think Destiny is calling you to write some, chum!
@3: That did NOT help with the bawling. Totally worth it, though.
@13: yes, you're right! I got it jangled in my mind - Jimmy Stewart grew up in a small town in Pennsylvania, and I know they based Bedford Falls a little on that, so I always forget and move the town there. Thanks for the catch!
And if you're looking for a copy of AMOLAD, Criterion Collection released it on DVD and Blu-Ray in a new 4K digital restoration! It's very purty and includes some extras. I'm hoping that if they're able to launch their streaming service (R.I.P. Filmstruck) they'll add the whole Powell & Pressburger filmography - it's all incredible.
@3: That's also my favorite bit! And I will die on the hill that the naturally curly red hair is intentional. :)
@MaGnUS: Sure! I'm glad you want to feature it. :) And @Almuric: I'm taking your reading as canon in spite of Coop's parentage, because that's GREAT.
I love this list, but I can't help but notice a troubling lack of Messrs. Crow T. Robot and Tom Servo.
Oh, I'm not sure! Usually my DVR lists it as an hour, as well, but I'm not finding any info about whether Syfy's decided to air it without commercials.
@4: To answer your question I'll need to spoil something, so here's your answer, whited out: one character refuses the aliens' advances, which is treated as a big, climactic moment - they seem to be coming out as asexual, but they also only seem to be doing it as a response to being mistreated by various partners. So I was unsure if they're supposed to be identifying as asexual as an orientation, or if the movie is conflating "asexual" with "giving up on love." Which I found a bit dodgy. But I could also be overthinking the whole thing, as that's been known to happen.
@4: That's what I'm assuming! It was just too neat, especially with the technician able to immediately tell the entire room that it was basically the SecGen's fault - undermining his authority even more.
@1: Oops, thanks for the correction! My typing tends to get ahead of my spelling. :) "IFF" stands for "Identification, friend or foe" - I'll add that into the review.
@ 1, 2, and 4: That was always my assumption as well! Poor Simon. :(
@14: I actually saw that skit before I ever saw the movie! And apparently it was a huge issue that Potter didn't get any comeuppance - under the Hayes Code bad guys were supposed to be punished onscreen - and I know they shot at least one scene of Potter being confronted about the money, but I couldn't find any quotes from Capra about how he got around including it in the final cut. Research never ends. :)
Oh, sorry - I think I was just unclear! Canticle for Leibowitz is a post-apocalyptic novel by Walter Miller Jr., published in 1960, that follows a post-nuclear-disaster religious sect. It's a great book - hilarious in an incredibly dark way - and also really thoughtful and weird. The Road is Cormac McCarthy's take on a post-apocalypse, published in 2006. It follows a father and son who try to survive in a Cormac McCarthy book terrifying wasteland, and it's just relentlessly dark. I'll edit the piece to make that clearer for everyone! :)
@1: I'll make a note of that - when I was researching the medications it seemed like both were in use in Europe but not the U.S. The first half of The Tick's first season is up on Amazon Prime, and Dirk Gently airs on BBC America. Thanks for the correction!
I agree about Billy - I definitely felt like there was more going on in the scenes with Steve, and that both actors were throwing that energy out there to give us a hint of Billy's conflicted emotions. I wanted to see more of him, to get a sense of depth the way we did with Steve, rather than him filling the "scary jock/bully" slot, and delving more into his sexuality would have done that...but obviously this is small town 1980s America, so if the writers do go in that direction, they'll need way more time to dig into that in a way that's both realistic to the time, and sensitive to the character. And I think if Mike and El had talked to Max during that dance that would have fixed my discomfort with the pair-ups - it just felt to me like the kids were being rushed into couples much too abruptly, and then that was the note we ended on. But I loved the use of Time After Time and The Police. :)
@2: Thanks for pointing out those errors! I'll go in and fix them - I think I was remembering Marcus' mother being Irish. And I'm not sure how "Susan" got in there!
Early spring certainly used to be a dead zone for movies, but I think that cycle has ended now that there are so many on-demand services and video games nibbling at film profits. A Wrinkle in Time is coming out in early March, too, and I know that's already being pushed as a big, prestige film as well - I think early 2018 is looking like a great time, cinematically speaking. :)
@Matt Dovey: You are completely correct - it was a really insensitive term for me to use there. I apologize for using it, and I thank you for taking the time to point it out.
@Kate: Oh, of course teenagers (especially) used posters to decorate! Sorry if that wasn't clear. My quibble is more that I don't believe a poor high school student in Indiana would find a pristine poster for an obscure horror movie that was only just building up a video cult following in the early 80s. I also think Bill is coded as being a bit more middle class than the Byers family, so he'd have more spending money than Jonathan does.
And to be fair to the show, I think Stranger Things gets a lot of stuff exactly right - but it's interesting to contrast the two, since there's such a conversation between Stephen King and the Duffers. IT has made me even more excited for Season 2. :)
Yeah, that was definitely a frustration I had with the film - Alvin ends up being pretty one-note, to the point that it's unclear whether he's attacking Bev because he's being controlled by IT, or if he's just finally gone that far into his own abusiveness. I really wish that we could have had at least one good scene with the two of them, as well as at least a little bit with Richie and Ben's families, to balance out some of the horror.
@3-RDBetz: Agreed on the awesomeness of the original comics! Personally I love the lighter tone of the cartoon, but that first Tick run was fantastic in its own right.
Good point, Ghostly1 - didn't mean to inadvertently create a dystopia with that headline.
There should be a new Ghibli Rewatch essay in two weeks. I'm changing the format slightly so that I can talk about thematic elements in the films rather than doing a traditional recap - I can't wait to share it and discuss it with all of you!
Yes to the new music! I didn't want to give that away in the post, but I also teared up at that bit. :)
Thank you for giving us more information, Fred Patten - I had no idea Streamline was trying to bring Studio Ghibli films to the U.S. for so long. I appreciate your team's effort to bring the films over uncut!
Wow, thank you for all these informative comments! Thank, Robotech_Master for the Blu-ray suggestion - I'm adding it to my wishlist - and thanks Reed Nelson for confirming the Fujiko/April O'Neill hypothesis! April was a great inspiration to a small, career-minded Leah, so the knowledge that Fujiko is basically her mom is fantastic. And Fred Patten, thank you for fighting for the quiet moments in the film. I noticed those scenes more on this watch, since I just re-watched a bunch of the television episodes as I prepped this piece. It really helps Miyazaki's version of Lupin stand out as a more thoughtful character.
I might be able to cover Miyazaki and Takahata's TV work a little bit (especially Future Boy Conan - I've never seen it and that synopsis sounds fascinating) but I think we are going to focus more on the movies, since they're easier to access, and people can watch along. Speaking of which, next up is Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind, so I hope you can all join me again! :)
We're doing alllll of Ghibli! And I haven't watched Pom Poko in years, so I'm especially excited for that one. :)
Yeah, the more I think about the scene the more I'm on the side of just loving it. I'm so impressed with the way they stayed with it, and I agree with you, Politeruin - this was such a better ending for Miller's arc! Also a better ending for Julie, since she didn't simply end up being a Space Damsel.
@1: Thanks for pointing out the typo! As much as I'd love to visit a wharf that celebrates language, I want to make sure that Benjamin Lee Whorf gets the proper credit. :)
Fixed! Thanks for pointing it out.
@4: You're totally right! I got my denominational wires crossed - Schulz was a Methodist Sunday School teacher, not a Presbyterian - I'll go fix it in the post. And we welcome glasses-pushing here, so thank you for pointing it out! :)
@11: That sounds fantastic! Thanks for telling us, I'll definitely add that one in when we update the post.
@8: I didn't remember that! Clearly I need to rewatch Monkeybone.
...that's not a sentence I ever expected to type.
@ Marla J: They're Ayo and Aneka, two members of the Dora Milaje, an elite squad of bodyguard who protect T'Challa. (If you saw Captain America: Civil War, the woman who said, "Move, or you will be moved" to Black Widow was with the Dora Milaje.) Ayo and Aneka figured prominently in Ta-Nehisi Coates' Black Panther series that came out last spring - in that panel, Ayo's wearing "Midnight Angel" armor to break Aneka out of prison.
@ChrisG: Noted and fixed! And that would indeed be a sweet deal. :)
@Sammael: Yeah, I decided to restrict myself to live-action (mostly U.S. productions as well) because otherwise these ranking posts get unwieldy. Although I do need to find an excuse to watch Ghost in the Shell again...
@hoopmanjh: You're thinking of Tank Girl! Ice-T plays a kangaroo person named T-Saint - the man has had an extraordinary acting career.
@Marie: Good call, thanks! I updated the post to make that clear.
@11: Thanks for pointing out that the video disappeared! I've replaced the link, and I highly recommend it.
@ 6 & 7: Yes! I knew I recognized him, but I couldn't remember which plot thread he was from.
@5, Thanks for pointing Good Omens out! Neverwhere was an adaptation of a screenplay, Stardust was an adaptation of a comic, and Good Omens was a collaboration, so American Gods was Gaiman's first original solo novel. (Which is weird to think about, since his career was already so huge by the time it came out.) I'll edit the post to make it clearer. :)
@3: Oh yeah, ORE! Thank you, I didn't think "oil" made sense, but once I heard oil I couldn't unhear it. I'll fix it in the post.
I haven't read the books (which I'm sure is showing in my recaps) but I've been loving the characters, and the show did a great job of making the naming of the Rocinante an important scene even for someone new to this world. :)
@1: I'd definitely read this after Sandman's main arc ends with The Wake. I think the characters will make more sense, and the allusions will add more to your reading experience, where they might just be confusing if you're new to the story.
Nothing about Iron Fist, unfortunately! People kept chanting his name, but Loeb didn't say anything about the show - he stuck to DD, JJ, and a very slight mention that Luke Cage was filming now.
@1: We fixed it! Dr. Fu Manchu has been thwarted once again.
Thanks for the link, LilMissMuddy! That's some great work. :)
@1: So it is! The location has been updated - thanks for pointing it out.
The woman on the far end is San from Mononoke Hime, and she is the best!
I'm also not sure about the armored woman next to Ripley - anyone else recognize her?
The bolt-cutters are the BEST. Yeah, there's really no need to see Max's movies in order, because I think George Miller sees these films more as loosely organized folktales that just all happen to have Max in them as a character. That's part of why recasting Max doesn't cause a problem - he's more of a James Bond-type character, who could theoretically keep having adventures far into our dystopian future, whether or not Mel Gibson, Tom Hardy, or even Miller himself are involved.
@1: The "Oh What A Lovely Day!" guy is a warboy, and I can say that his role is freaking awesome without spoiling anything!
@2 The more I think about it the more I tease out themes and references! Not just to the original MM trilogy but also to Blade Runner and, weirdly, The Dark Crystal? And Huntingdon-Whitely is brilliant as Angharad. Personally I was OK with the spartan dialogue, probably because I just rewatched the original trilogy, and I felt like they overstated the themes of Beyond Thunderdome so much that Fury Road felt even more refreshing. Plus Tom Hardy manages some really evocative grunts. :)