What. The. Hell...WENN is reporting that a new poll of the greatest TV Action Heroes was just released. The top five?
1. MacGyver
2. Buffy the Vampire Slayer
3. Jack Bauer (24)
4. Sydney Bristow (Alias)
5. Magnum P.I.
First off, it’s good to see two women in the top five (apparently, Xena also made the top ten, but so far I’ve been unable to track down the full list). And you know what? I’m not really sure why Magnum’s up there, but any guy who’s man enough to pull off that Freddie Mercury ’stache and short shorts through the late 80s deserves kudos in my book.
But what’s going on with the top two? Buffy is the Slayer, chosen to defend the world against all the Forces of Darkness, invested with powers originating from pure demonic essence which endow her with superhuman speed, agility, and endurance. Plus, she’s got great hair. MacGyver, on the other hand, engages in occasional scuffles with random bad guys with the use of his trusty Swiss Army Knife and an array of relatively impressive D.I.Y. skills. Come on! You might as well pit Kali the Destroyer against Encyclopedia Brown. There’s no contest!
Buffy Summers battled not only vampires, but whole hordes of demons, monsters, evil scientists, even gods, and faced down at least two Apocalypses, for crying out loud! And she did it while dealing with all the trials and travails of high school, college, a hot mess of relationship issues, and the whiniest, most irritating younger sister ever inflicted upon the world in human form. Okay, so she had badass Slayer strength on her side, but that girl had a training regimen that made the average Olympic gymnast look about as active as Jabba the Hut. And let’s face it, Buffy could take a licking and keep on ticking—she died! Twice! Didn’t stop her...it just pissed her off.
MacGyver was pretty cool, I’ll admit—the whole nonviolent, brain-over-brawn thing is definitely sexy. And, as far as shadowy government contractors go, the Phoenix Foundation seems to actually be a force for good in the world (which probably makes the show at least as much of a fantasy as anything in Buffy). But the poll was about ACTION HEROES!!! I’m sorry, but no matter how much snazzy, late-80s theme music you layer over a suspenseful montage sequence, blowing a door open with some pencil shavings, a tube sock, a paper clip and toothpaste does Not. Beat. A Vampire Slayer.
I don’t remember MacGyver ever training, do you? “Hey, Mac, we’re going to let you loose at an OfficeMax filled with poisonous gas. You have two minutes to rig a breathing apparatus out of toner cartridges and binder clips, fly to safety on massive origami posterboard wings, and deliver a positive, anti-drug monologue to the adorable Mayim Bialik (Q: TV’s Blossom? A: The same!) Godspeed!” Nope. Never happened. He was always off playing hockey or flirting with Teri Hatcher (who, for the record, is not even a sexy vampire, unlike some people’s significant others).
In the interest of not pissing off my mother (or Patty and Selma Bouvier), I should say that I’m honestly glad MacGyver’s on the list, and I promise that I’m not trashing Richard Dean Anderson, who has always seemed like a pretty good guy. It’s just that if we were to arrange a cage match between the two characters, I think we all know that we’d be picking chunks of Angus MacGyver out of our hair in about thirty seconds, no matter how many chemistry sets and useful household supplies lay strewn about the Unholy Cage of Death. So, what do you think, people? Am I crazy, or are these rankings a little off? Who’s missing? Am I being too hard on poor Angus? And what was really going on with Magnum’s mustache? Feel free to rant away, get crazy—just go to town, really...
VIEW ALL BY · Tuesday November 18, 2008 06:56pm EST
Drag him off the street and shove him in, and yeah, he'll be tenderized.
Now if they were following the usual plots, MacGuyver would be shut in the garage, or the supply closet few minutes in which he'd have ample time to escape and foil everyone's plans for him, or come up with some kind of gadget to help him win in the ring.
MacGuyver needs his prep time, like Clark Kent taking his moment in the phone booth for a dress change into Superman.
Tuesday November 18, 2008 07:02pm EST
For example, Buffy was stupid enough to fall in love with not one but TWO vampires.
I'm just saying.
VIEW ALL BY · Tuesday November 18, 2008 07:16pm EST
Don't forget those vampires also fell in love with Buffy.
VIEW ALL BY · Tuesday November 18, 2008 07:41pm EST
Bill motherfrakkin' Adama.
After all, his fists are named "we" and "all."
So say we all.
VIEW ALL BY · Tuesday November 18, 2008 08:07pm EST
Tuesday November 18, 2008 09:17pm EST
Plus, if you can kill a several hundred pound demon or pick up Thor's hammer (or was it a troll's hammer? I forget), you can totally kick some puny guy's butt.
VIEW ALL BY · Tuesday November 18, 2008 10:02pm EST
There. Love the dude, but seriously.
Magnum, though, does belong on the list. He and his three homosocial friends--when sufficiently motivated--did form one heck of a postwar commando unit, like the A-Team but much more aboveground.
But please tell me Dan Briggs was on the list somewhere! The man was a braniac action god!!!
VIEW ALL BY · Tuesday November 18, 2008 10:39pm EST · amended on Thursday November 20, 2008 11:30am EST
Then there's MacGyver's true secret weapon. Buffy would have to fight him without looking in his direction, a definite disadvantage. You know? You don't know?
Mullet!
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday November 19, 2008 12:09am EST
Look at MacGuyver's resume:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_problems_solved_by_MacGyver
He dismantled a nuclear warhead with a paper clip. You don't think he could find a way to outmaneuver a teenager?
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday November 19, 2008 12:42am EST
I wonder who would win in a knock-down, drag-out ratings war though...who gets more hours on screen? Who is more popular? (And what would you count, anyway: original airing, re-runs, cable TV episode marathons, DVD replays, youtube clips, youtube parodies, length of wikipedia entries, spin-off series, official fan magazines, official novelisations, fan fiction, number-of-times-someone's-dressed-up-as-them-at-Halloween....just where do you draw the line?)
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday November 19, 2008 12:51am EST
1. MacGyver
2. Buffy
3. Jack Bauer
4. Sydney Bristow
5. Magnum,P.I.
6. La Femme Nikita
7. Walker, Texas Ranger
8. Brandon Walsh (from 90210) (huh??)
9. Xena
10. Bionic Woman and Six Million Dollar Man
The MacGyver pick is described and justified by: "Laugh if you must, but there is nobody better at saving the day than the mulleted Mr. Wizard of explosive household items. Devoted to nonviolence, Mac's scientific solutions to international crises and catastrophes showed us that brains can trump brawn, and that physics is handier than a handgun. Especially if it's crafted from an old apple core, a thumbtack and a length of duct tape."
I'm still mystified by #8 (although they seem to be using an alternate definition of seeing 'action' in his case), but I'd how about a vote for the TV version of "Highlander"/Duncan MacLeod as an action hero than a soapy chick-magnet.
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday November 19, 2008 03:37am EST
What? Don't look at me like that! Who else do you know who could work a mullet like he did? Plus, he had highlights back when guys didn't have them all that much. That has to count for something.
La Femme Nikita...damn, I hadn't heard about that show for a while.
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday November 19, 2008 10:37am EST
But the real reason that Buffy vs. MacGyver would be the worst cagematch ever is that it would inevitably degrade into melodramatic romance. Buffy would see in the Minnesota farm boy with the 80's hair her old flame Riley, the farm boy with the WB haircut from 2000. As mentioned in the post, Mac can't resist the angsty young women. Their love affair would follow a familiar arc: Mac would be frustrated by the fact that he can't solve all of Buffy's problems. Of course, it will only be later in the episode that he discovers that Buffy is the slayer and her real problem is that she spends her nights fighting vampires. At about that point in the cagematch, the Cold War era Soviet vampires show up.
At some point, it becomes clear that in order for Buffy to save the world, she has to kill Mac. Mac will inevitably use his ingenuity to find a way to save the world without having to die. The cagematch would end with no winner and Buffy and Mac parting ways forever. This suits both of them fine. Mac, of course, has a new love interest each cagematch. In a week, he will have forgotten all about Buffy. Buffy, on the other hand, needs to brood over unrequited love for a season.
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday November 19, 2008 11:28am EST
The Mullet > The Rachel
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday November 19, 2008 12:24pm EST
And really, why would they want to fight in the first place?
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VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday November 19, 2008 02:18pm EST
And, you must admit, that would be awesome.
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday November 19, 2008 02:18pm EST
Depends what phase the moon is in, I think. (Or if they're in a "Battle of the Bands" instead of a physical fight.)
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday November 19, 2008 03:53pm EST
On Mac and Buffy: no, there is a limit to fanfic, people. If you stay true to the characters, Buffy wouldn't give Mac the time of day. He's simply too well-adjusted. She doesn't just like the "bad boys": she likes the maladaptive ones. In terms of mixing fictional TV universes, Bobby Donnell & Ally McBeal si, Angus MacGyver & Buffy Anne Summers no. Leave McG to Elyssa Davalos--he can compete with Doogie Howser--or maybe he can just move over to Alexa D aka Gwen "Lightning Lass" Raiden on Angel.
Oh, later thought of someone who should be on the list: Kimberly Ann Possible. Okay, she's derivative, and animated, but she did manage to do all that world-saving and still keep up pretty amazing grades in high school--which Buffy didn't, I'm sorry to point out. I'd actually vote for She-Go over KP, but I'm assuming heroes-turned-villains are out of the running.
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday November 19, 2008 11:09pm EST
TV.
Guide.
How do you think they compiled the list? What basis dd they use for 'Greatest'? Since none of the A-Team is on the list, much less the entirety of the A-Team. From the get go, standing outside of the box, this is about as worthless as any opinion poll.
Still outside of the box. By the premise of "Buffy is the Slayer, MacGuyver is just a inventive guy", you are basing people on their 'raw' strength rather than their relative strength. Was MacGuyver facing vampires and demonic forces? No. He was not. Power level is relative. Exact strengths can only be measured between two relative forces. In Buffy's world, she is NOT an ultimate power. (Sorry - answer is no).
Now, we step into the box. The writers violated their own continuity guidelines for the sake of variety in the show as repeatedly as most comic books. She has gifted powers. In some ways, Buffy should be tossed into the Superheroine weight class. Especially if you pull that deus ex machina card of plot line controlled fate out of play. That's always a cheap trick.
So whose world would the cage match take place in? Buffy's, or MacGuyver's? One where no magic or powers exist? Or one full of demons and vampires? And what would you do with a VampGuyver? Do you want to imagine what he could make out of two broken femurs, some dead kid's braces, and a book of spells?
OR! We can move back to the important argument of Shark versus Bear.
Disclaimer or possible flamebait, if unintentionally so: I tried to like Buffy. I watched multiple seasons. But on reflection, I like it less and less. A lot like Raymond Feist's later works, or Crichton, or Card, or Clancy, or Jordan, or Goodkind, or ... the list goes on, of people for whom I have some respect and more criticism than I like to allow myself to vent.
VIEW ALL BY · Sunday November 30, 2008 06:01pm EST