Book covers, we are told, are not illustrations for the story but little billboards meant to sell the book. They’re not even meant to sell the book to readers, but often to the stores. They’re full of coded information like gold lettering meaning “We take this book seriously.” Publishers spend ages collecting blurbs from authors and go to all this trouble to make books look attractive. Mostly as a reader I ignore all of that—to the point where I often don’t read the back of the book until I’ve read the book several times. I’d be quite happy if they were all like old Penguins, just one solid colour per genre.
A really staggeringly bad cover picture will make me hesitate if it’s a book I’m only considering, but it won’t stop me buying a book if it’s an author I like. It might stop me reading it on the train if it’s embarrassingly awful, but that’s all. Boring generic covers tend to merge into each other (or become like that one solid block of colour) to me and I only notice if something has a specially good cover.
Some people won’t buy a book if it has won an award they don’t like —you’d think that would be a certain winner, but apparently not. Any award would seem like a plus to me.
Holes in the cover, or covers that don’t actually cover the book. They never wear well. It might say all sorts of exciting things to the shop, but it says to me is “torn cover waiting to happen.” Usually if this is a book I really want, I’ll grit my teeth and say “I’ll buy the British edition...” (or the US edition if it happens to be the British edition that has the hole). If I don’t really want it, if I’m just idly looking, it goes straight back on the shelf. I’m really rigid on this one. The last book I actually bought with a hole in the cover was Seventh Son, in 1988.
Then there’s “Reader’s guides” or “Questions for book clubs” in the back of the book with lots of dopey questions like “Why did Sissy kiss the alien?” and “Is Randy’s confession really sincere?” I despise these. They don’t threaten the physical integrity of the book, but I can never stop myself from reading them and rolling my eyes at their inanity. I hated comprehension questions when I was in school, too. I will buy books with them if there’s no choice, but if I’m not sure I want the book this tips the scales towards not buying it because it’s clearly aimed at morons.
Slightly less irritating are paperbacks bound with the first chapter of the next volume at the end. This won’t stop me buying something, but I do hate it. A book should be a book, and you should be able to physically tell how much of it you have left. Also, I hate reading the first chapter of the next volume. It ruins the pacing of my reading to read the first chapter and then wait for the rest. (Yes, I know they do that with my books. I grumble about it, but what do I know about marketing?)
I also detest the trim size that in Britain is called C-Format, aka “yuppieback,” the size of a hardcover but bound as a paperback. I have simple practical reasons for disliking this—all the lightness and convenience of a hardcover combined with all the solidity and durability of a paperback. For some reason, possibly because the glue used for paperbacks is just right for holding a paperback together, I find them even less durable and far more prone to spine cracking. Fortunately, I encounter these much less frequently than I used to, as they’re mostly a British fad, thank goodness.
Pages and pages of quotes at the start of a paperback can be offputting. I like a few blurbs, especially if they’re from authors I like, but when it gets to pages and pages of them, it seems excessive and had the opposite effect. Related to this, there are some authors and sources that do put me off. If an author I hate loves something, that doesn’t look like a good sign. Also Kirkus. Kirkus almost always hate my books, so they clearly have awful taste. Besides, who ever saw a copy of Kirkus, or heard of it except on blurbs? A quote from Kirkus among others won’t stop me, but if I pick up something I’ve never heard of and it only has a Kirkus quote I’ll probably put it back.
So, how about you? What puts you off?
Sunday October 26, 2008 12:48pm EDT
Just about anything with 'elf princess' in the description will make me put down a book, sometimes violently. And if the book is about A Young Man Discovering His Destiny, it better grab me HARD in the spot-reading I do, or I roll my eye and walk away.
OTOH, I personally have found that Kirkus Reviews, Locus recommendations and Publisher's Weekly reviews often get me to books I like.
VIEW ALL BY · Sunday October 26, 2008 01:15pm EDT
Also: I'm finding I just don't have the endurance anymore to sift through hundreds of awful-looking books to find the few gems. For every "Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell", there are fifty (or a hundred) books set in some sub-Tolkienesque world (twice removed) I could care less about. Also, yes, typical fantasy cover artwork with the glowing diadems, pointed ears, and improbable armor does put me off.
Sunday October 26, 2008 01:31pm EDT
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I obviously look primarily at the art work. It really should be original and not boring. Those are my main criteria. I am deeply affected by how a book looks. I remember reading a Graham Greene book that was a horrible flat green colour and I can't remember the story but I remember the awful way the cover made me feel.
A sense of fun is also very nice. Fantasy takes its self way too seriously these days and it shows on it's book covers.(tho' sometimes things were a bit too silly in the 80's)
I do tend to buy based on blurbs as well. If Neil Gaiman endorsed a book I'd be far more likely to give it a try. I will read these blurbs for an insight into the book as well.
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I mean, Pratchett isn't very big in the US, but the questions "But, isn't he too... um... British?" and "I've heard his books are full of goofy characters." were truly winceworthy.
So of course I bought it at once. Even if it hadn't been a Pratchett, how often does a normal reader get to buy stuff that the publisher has messed up that badly? It's like those books with every other signature printed upside down or omitted, only still readable.
(Of course as I have seen in previous comment threads Real Authors have publishers fawning over them and sending them millions of things gratis, or something like that. Typically uncorrected proofs with a request to please check by next week, I suppose. What an unmissable honour.)
Sunday October 26, 2008 03:35pm EDT
I've actually missed books I wanted to buy because I thought I'd already read them. Well, I had. Or at least the first chapter. Don't like that AT ALL!!
For me, it's quality and recommendation. Read a good author, buy another by him/her. Pass on the recommendation. Do that often enough, the recommendations come back.
I stopped reading SciFi in my teens, and only began again in my forties, not because it all went bad, just because the marketing was so banal/generic. There's a lot of great writing out there, I'm just catching up.
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VIEW ALL BY · Sunday October 26, 2008 03:36pm EDT
So I mean, being free is something that stops me from NOT buying a book. Sort of.
VIEW ALL BY · Sunday October 26, 2008 04:06pm EDT
What catches my eye with books by unknown authors is often the title. When a title catches my eye, I next look at the back of the book. If it sounds interesting, and the price is reasonable, I'll probably pick it up.
My to-be-read shelves are finally full enough that I'm less likely to buy books by total unknowns, but it happens sometimes.
But none of this actually addresses the question, because it's hard. The only book I can think of where I can clearly identify the factors, beyond "it just didn't sound interesting enough", had three strikes, none of which would have sufficed on its own:
1) Never heard of the author -- on it's own, not that big a deal
2) Never heard of the publisher -- somewhat more telling; I've at least heard of most of the small presses that are known for good work
3) Back cover blurb contained multiple typos -- would annoy me, but wouldn't stop me from buying a book I was actively looking for, but in combination with the other factors, this put it over the edge.
Plus, IIRC, it just didn't sound that interesting.
Sunday October 26, 2008 04:30pm EDT
1. Deckle edges! This is a bit of an obsession of mine. It is in such bad taste that certain (literary!) publishers use those uneven-cut pages - which were GENUINELY how books came out when one bought books with "uncut" pages, but it is pure affectation to hold onto it now, much nicer and tidier and less pretentious to have a neat flat edge.
2. Sans-serif fonts in books. There are a whole range of fonts, in fact, that pretty much will prevent me from buying a book unless it is fantastically the book I most want to read in the world - they are the "idiot" fonts, they make it look as though the writing also must be bland and not fully literate!
I share your dislike of book club questions. I also dislike books with multiple narratives when the narratives are printed in two different fonts!
On the other hand, I love foil & cutout covers...
VIEW ALL BY · Sunday October 26, 2008 04:31pm EDT
'In the tradition of ....' also 'the next ....'
Blurbs that comment about how great the book/author is without giving me a clue about what the book's about.
Going along with the above, blurbs that comment on an earlier book/books without letting me know what this book is about.
Drak Bibliophile
VIEW ALL BY · Sunday October 26, 2008 05:34pm EDT
The Shadow of the Torturer. Okay.
Sword of Shadows. Nope.
Conversely, I'm a sucker for one-word titles.
(I don't even know if "Sword of Shadows" is good. I just typed the words in Google and, lo and behold, there was a fantasy series of that name!)
VIEW ALL BY · Sunday October 26, 2008 05:37pm EDT
I ignore quotes. Too many is annoying. And I hate adding the chapter of the next book, unless said book is already on the shelves.
VIEW ALL BY · Sunday October 26, 2008 06:10pm EDT
Usually if a book looks interesting and I've not read something by that author before, I'll just read a page or two in the bookstore. And for every four or five books I instantly put back, I find one Swordspoint that way.
Sunday October 26, 2008 07:41pm EDT
Another thing that will keep me from buying a book is its placement in the bookstore. Specifically, I've seen quite a few books recently that are placed in the Young Adult section, that have gotten really good reviews from adults. But as a 40ish single guy, no kids, hanging out in the Young Adult section of Barnes and Noble just strikes me as a spectacularly Bad Idea.
VIEW ALL BY · Sunday October 26, 2008 07:50pm EDT
As for books typeset in sans-serif fonts, that's nothing. I've seen books typeset in *Comic Sans* and set using nothing but Microsoft Word. (OK, only two, from one of those little presses that was obviously only founded to publish one man's horrible writing and which throws in reprints of some out of copyright stuff as well to sweeten the pot.)
VIEW ALL BY · Sunday October 26, 2008 08:22pm EDT
Ebooks at full paper price.
VIEW ALL BY · Sunday October 26, 2008 08:52pm EDT
I'm pretty wary of the Booker Prize. Been burned too many time by so called literature (Vernon God Little. Honestly. What were they smoking that year?).
VIEW ALL BY · Sunday October 26, 2008 08:53pm EDT
Before the Kindle, the things stopping me were limited to
* cliche titles
* all blurbs are by entities/authors I know nothing about ("Local Arizona Sun", for instance)
* openly pornographic covers, though that's limited to the more lurid romance books and, somewhat, Laurell K. Hamilton
* non-psychological (e.g. gore) horror covers
* skulls on covers
* unicorns or winged creatures on covers
* Piers Anthony
* World War I, World War II
* X and the Y-ity Z, post-Harry Potter
* from 4 years ago: Agatha Christie or anybody praised as "the next Agatha Christie!"
* price > $60 for audio, > $35 for hardcovers, > $25 for trade, > $15 for paper, > $150 for really special editions
* from 1.5 years ago: vampires
* from 1 year ago: werewolves
* from 6 months ago: zombies
(My hatred for vampires has lessened to the point where I can actually read things like Harry Dresden books, argh argh argh. I'm so not getting the Thomas-only novella. I even hate Discworld vampires, unless they're Otto.
My hatred for cliche werewolves is still seething. Although I would date Angua or Remus any time. Or both at the same time, not picky.
My hatred for zombies is a burning, white hot hatred right now. I loved World War Z and was amused for some months thereafter, then somewhen it turned right around to absolute sheer hate.
Usually when I get tired of something, past a certain point fusion is no longer possible and collapses into an abnormal blackhole blasting gamma rays of fury for a few million years.
Agatha Christie is different; hatred still exists some 4 years after.)
Most of these things carry on into the Kindle. Covers no longer matter, though, because covers are seen about once, on the e-store/Amazon/whatever buy page, and then pretty much never again.
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How about those covers that change mid series? The non-use of Jim Burns' cover for George RR Martin's Feast for Crows is still a sad loss for me.
But my pet hate, like Jenny above, is deckled edges. Not the cover, I know, but it can put me off a book. Having gone to expense of making the thing, why can't it be finished properly? The edges rarely stay pristine, anyway!
Sunday October 26, 2008 09:50pm EDT
I always do the first line test - does the first sentence of the book grab me? Is it unique or is it "I came home and set my purse on the couch."? I am really turned off by mundane events occuring in the first sentence of a book - especially in first person books! Even some of those first lines that try to be unique or edgy are coming off as cliche now. I guess it's like Squidward says, "Everyone's a critic."
VIEW ALL BY · Sunday October 26, 2008 10:21pm EDT
* Mass market paperbacks over 500 pages, cause that spine just ain't gonna hold. Or if it does, my thumb is gonna get tired keeping the book open.
* Any POD or self-publishing outfit.
* Any unknown to me author where the cover/jacket does not include a sufficiently detailed synopsis. If it's just blurbs or a couple of sentences, I pass. I need to know there's a fighting chance I'll like it.
* In digital books, Adobe Digital Editions format, particularly when the seller labels it as PDF. I will ask for my money back every time if it isn't apparent before I download.
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"Book X of Y" is another thing that stops me unless it's Book 1. I *might* read that unless the series is silly long. 3 or 4 books? OK. 7, 8, 9, 45? Nope. Note that this applies to series only, not necessarily books set in the same universe or even books with a recurring character. For example, in spy fiction I like all of the Quiller novels, even though they're rather similar. But books where I need to have read earlier volumes to get the current one? Nuh uh.
Books from TV series, etc I don't pick up. Yes, yes, I know, BSG and all that. Nope, not doing it.
But, honestly, aside from the cover issue, few things about the physical book will stop me from buying a book that I'd otherwise really want to read.
VIEW ALL BY · Sunday October 26, 2008 11:49pm EDT
Also, Oprah's Book Club Editions are out, luckily she doesn't pan for sci-fi, but there have been a few books I wanted to get that I passed by because she's got her unholy name written all over the cover.
Monday October 27, 2008 01:09am EDT
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Covers will rarely put me off, but then there's always one that comes along and constitutes the exception.
Blurbs from Harriet Klausner or other highly-placed Amazon reviewers will cause me to put the book down right away. Blurbs in general are a double-edged sword. If they come from authors who I admire and respect, then they're a great thing. If they come from authors who I don't like at all, then I'll often give the book a pass.
VIEW ALL BY · Monday October 27, 2008 06:11am EDT
* IIRC, in the early 2000s (and maybe very late 90s) you couldn't throw a brick without hitting an SF cover that looked like it had been incompetently rendered on Bryce 3D (probably because it had been). It was horrible. Some people still haven't gotten over 3D rendering, but at least the technology has caught up a bit.
** fantasy is the worst offender, but I've seen it on SF covers too.
*** Price considerations aside, they hog precious space on my shelf! I get them if they're on sale, or if I really don't want to wait for the normal paperback.
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On the other hand, I've been buying a lot of my books online this year, because I've had health problems that make it difficult to get to the genre bookstores in town, and so I can wind up with a book with a hole in the cover without knowing I'm going to. I really don't like them. It's just that very few things will put me off buying a book once I'm determined. Not even deckle edges, which I also dislike.
I've talked off and on about the books you'd want to hide behind a copy of Playboy so people would think you were reading something less porny--the C.J. Cherryh series that starts with Gate of Ivrel, uff da. But I bought them anyway. Of course I did. It was C.J. Cherryh.
I never read the first chapter of the next book when they put it at the end of this book. I detest serials, and that counts to me as a serial. I flip to the back to find out whether it's there, and if it is, I stick a bookmark in so that I know where the real book ends.
VIEW ALL BY · Monday October 27, 2008 08:37am EDT · amended on Monday October 27, 2008 09:09am EDT
-I dont care how they got there, Im one of those people that will read to the end of a book, even a bad one, to see what happened.
*Books that are slutty or about sex.
-I like vampires, and will generally pick up a book to look at if it mentions vampires.. but now or days they are really slutty (even the YA ones) so just as often I put the book back.
*Books with ugly/badly designed covers.
*Books that lack a sense of humor (even a little).
*tired of books about rape.
VIEW ALL BY · Monday October 27, 2008 09:30am EDT
It's when they're huge C-formats the size (and almost the price) of hardbacks that I hate them.
VIEW ALL BY · Monday October 27, 2008 09:37am EDT
I guess Poser annoys me so much because I can use it. I can't open up Photoshop and draw something beautiful, but I can mock up an ok scene in Poser, and I want more than that from my book cover artists!
VIEW ALL BY · Monday October 27, 2008 10:26am EDT
I can't think of anything I usually avoid except maybe books that have either vampires or covers that look kind of dungeons & dragons-ish.
VIEW ALL BY · Monday October 27, 2008 10:40am EDT
Cover art is not usually an issue, I want to read the book, not gawk at the cover art.
Books based on role playing games tend to keep me from reading them.
VIEW ALL BY · Monday October 27, 2008 11:02am EDT
Wow. That is positively the worst cover I've ever seen. Thank you for that.
I quite like trade paperbacks, actually--much lighter than hardcovers and with larger fonts than mass market.
On the flip side, things that I really really love that will encourage me to purchase a book: blurbs that actually tell you what the book is about, interior art and design elements (like chapter headings, page numbers, little things that make the book beautiful), and one or two really strong blurbs from authors or reviewers I respect.
VIEW ALL BY · Monday October 27, 2008 11:04am EDT
Media tie ins of any stripe - movies, TV and games. Some may not suck, but on the whole...
Covers that are obviously aimed at the 15 year male market. I nearly didn't buy Saturn's Children because of that.
Monday October 27, 2008 11:16am EDT
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Two examples:
Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars series had Red and Green Mars in trade paperback format (the size Jo hates) that were actually quite inexpensive and rather nice looking. But Blue Mars never came out in that format so I'm stuck with a regular size paperback.
I have a "Bande Dessinée" trilogy entitled Légendes des contrées oubliées (Legends of the forgotten countries -- it's excellent BTW). The first two books have the title in silver foil while the third book has it simply printed in white.
I suspect it's often done because budgets get tighter or sales weren't as high as expected and I understand the business decision behind it, but it's still frustrating.
On an entirely contrary note, I first bought Charles De Lint's [Ghostwood simply because I loved Axolotl Press' design (from font choice to the paper's texture and colour not to mention the lovely cover) was so nice and thus discovered a great fantasy author. So good design is worth it![/i]
VIEW ALL BY · Monday October 27, 2008 12:35pm EDT
Also, adult editions of children's book where only the cover and the cost (invariably higher) have changed.
VIEW ALL BY · Monday October 27, 2008 12:41pm EDT
Covers can be an issue, bad ones won't necessarily stop me from buying them but if they're really horrendous I'll only read them at home.
Illegible spine details. Lots of books are shelved spine out in bookshops - I'm short and have difficulty reading the spines of books placed on the top shelves. If the font/ colours are such that they're illegible when they're not at eye level then I'm not going to hunt down a stool to stand on so that I can read them.
Really bad reviews won't put me off unless the blurb & cover are also bad (unless the review is by someone who's opinion has matched my own in the past - then I'd think twice, but still might get it if the premise sounded interesting)
VIEW ALL BY · Monday October 27, 2008 01:13pm EDT
Link here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_paperback#Trade_paperback
VIEW ALL BY · Monday October 27, 2008 01:39pm EDT
"Tide" is unusual enough to warrant attention.
And I loved "Stations of the Tide."
Here's a short list of suspect title words:
Sword, fire, dragon, wizard, mage, sorcerer, magic, dark, darkness, shadow, night, assassin, black, white, red, grey, dead, ring, knight, king, son, sun, wind, blood, ice, silence, lord, gold, castle, tower, land, ship, moon, sea, silver, crown, lost, secret, any number and especially seven, new, old, champion, planet, crystal, mirror, key, dagger, spirit, giant, forgotten, song, music, tear, mad
Although, re-reading this list I realize than I've read at least one good story for each of these words and I've just finished "The Wizard Knight."
So I'm probably full of it.
VIEW ALL BY · Monday October 27, 2008 01:47pm EDT · amended on Monday October 27, 2008 01:48pm EDT
Books about medieval-ish Kingdoms in desperate need of a Strong Young Leader to rise from the ranks and save them from invaders, especially when there is a map included in the front of the book and a lot of place names that look like they were stolen from a map of Wales.
Excessive gore - hard to describe the line where this becomes unacceptable to me, but at a certain point it isn't a legitimate part of the plot anymore, just an excuse to write graphic torture scenes.
Books where all the female characters are relegated to supporting parts like The Kindly Housekeeper or "reward" characters like The Beautiful Princess that the male protagonist is awarded as a prize at the end. I don't mind a book about a male protagonist having adventures, but I dislike books that have no interesting female characters at all - where's the female palace guard/ship commander/mountain tour guide? Why do all the evil alien starship commanders have to be male?
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Also, yes, typical fantasy cover artwork with the glowing diadems, pointed ears, and improbable armor does put me off.
In some Jack Vance story, there must be a character called Sir Heliotrope of the Improbable Armor...
VIEW ALL BY · Monday October 27, 2008 02:18pm EDT
I have obtained many enormous and impractical-to-shelve tomes that way. At least they have pretty dust jackets.
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VIEW ALL BY · Monday October 27, 2008 05:31pm EDT
Saturn's Children sure got a lot of comments. Apparently it was something of a tribute to the Heinlein "Friday" cover, as the book itself is more than something of a tribute to Heinlein works.
One of the best parts of buying hardcover is that you can simply remove said glossy piece of marketing frippery as needed and have a subtle and non-embarrassment inducing hardcover. Mind you are paying a premium for such, but to some it may be worth the pain.
I think my largest peeve currently is the 'dark romance' spam. There are occasional gems, but largely the plots are repetitive. A couple of 'new twists' on old tales, unless done with a rare wit and wonder, does not a story make.
Following a close second is the hyper-archetypal stories. Mentioned above, already. Young hero, impossible odds, strange assortment of similarly archetypal allies and enemies. Rehash, remix, sell it again.
Monday October 27, 2008 05:50pm EDT
If the character and place names all seem to have been created with a Scrabble set and used indiscriminately. Worse yet, most of them seem to have the most archetypal plots: "Young Prince Diexa rules the benevolent land of Poi;j4444, until the evil wizard a9o3ujo comes to town..." Will he persevere? I wonder.
And although I'm still a fan in general, I'm done with urban fantasy/horror. There are some surprises but they're running together in a big way.
VIEW ALL BY · Monday October 27, 2008 07:11pm EDT
The proper definition of "trade paperback" in the US is the one Jo gives, of marketing technique rather than trim size -- a trade paperback can be the nice medium-sized Orb volumes or the hardback-sized volumes (or, for that matter, mass-market sized, as I believe some publishers tried in the 90s). Some people may use the word solely to mean the hardback-sized, and use some other word for the medium-sized, but that's not correct even in the US.
(I was about to ask "isn't this in the FAQ?" before I remembered that it is not, in fact, 1998, and this is not, in fact, rasfw.)
VIEW ALL BY · Monday October 27, 2008 09:53pm EDT
If it interests me, I buy it.
VIEW ALL BY · Tuesday October 28, 2008 05:48am EDT
*Covers obviously created with any sort of 3D program on a computer
*Books whose back cover is made up entirely of quotes, especially if they're all quotes related to the author's last book as opposed to the book I'm currently holding in my hand
*A fantasy book with a photograph on the cover (a pet peeve of mine--if it's fantasy, it shouldn't pretend to be real)
*A book that's more than a few inches thick, unless I've heard a lot of good stuff about it (Jonathon Strange) or I already know it's good (A Song of Ice and Fire)
*Books with a single simple element on the cover (I refused to buy the Abhorsen trilogy books with those weird triangle things on the cover, and waited until I found the ones with the actual pictures of characters in the title)
*Any book with Eric Flint listed as an author (which is weird, as I liked the only book of his I've ever read)
*A licensed book (I just don't have the time anymore, altho I pretty much started reading fantasy after discovering Magic and Dragonlance books)
VIEW ALL BY · Tuesday October 28, 2008 06:44am EDT
Indeed, the custom of tearing the covers off paperbacks, about which I remain squeamish, is little practiced in the UK.
VIEW ALL BY · Tuesday October 28, 2008 09:36am EDT
Also, bad Welsh. I speak fluent(ish) Welsh, and I grew up amidst all those names (right in the middle of Gwynedd, in fact), so seeing them used inappropriately or just plain Wrong sets off cognitive dissonance. It's even worse when the author helpfully includes a pronunciation guide, because nine times out of ten it's not pronounced the same way as actual Welsh, it just looks almost exactly like it.
I can get past that where it's a good book otherwise - for instance, the Deryni series, though I haven't read any of those in years. Jacqueline Carey's Kushiel series gets it a bit more wrong, but only for minor characters, so it's not really problematic. (A female character with "mab Such-and-such" as a surname - like naming a Russian Dmitri Arkadyevna).
VIEW ALL BY · Tuesday October 28, 2008 10:25am EDT
I WILL buy if the sample is good or TOR has given me the first in a series for free and I like that one.
VIEW ALL BY · Tuesday October 28, 2008 11:25am EDT
Anyway, I don't think such trade paperbacks are solely a British fad. The vast majority of them I have are by US publishers. What I do think they are is an "international" fad. Bookstores outside the US seem to prefer them (and the few times I asked why, they told me that's because customers prefer them, which is probably because of the large price difference when both are on offer; shipping costs seem to add up a lot), so I always have to special order the hardcover.
As for the original question, I find it easier to say what makes me pick up a new book (outside of already knowing the author or having gotten recommendations) than what it is that makes me not pick it up.
Way at the top has to be the shiny cover. Yes, I admit it, I look at those. Something which stands out visually without breaking with the standards of the subgenres I prefer to read. The Bantam Chris Moriarty covers, or the newer Orbit Ken MacLeod covers (the colorful ones, not the black ones) are good examples of what worked to make me give an author a first try. Then I'll read the coverblurb to get a sense of what the story will be about. If it appeals (and sometimes even when it leaves me indifferent), what will make up my mind are the quotes by authors. Doesn't matter what they say, really; just which authors were asked and liked the book enough to give a positive quote. Bear, Brin, Robinson or Erikson means the book is coming home. Brooks, Goodkind or Card means it's staying there.
What will also make me pass over a book is a complete lack of coverblurb (Pan's early Neal Asher books; they were insanely shiny, but had only a single short tagline at the back; I must've picked them up and put them back two dozen times before coming across a 99p Waterstone's special and finally giving him a try), or too much raving about something not directly related to the story (all the Brasyl cover blurb seems to be about is how it's set in a certain country; yes, fine, but what is it about?)
VIEW ALL BY · Tuesday October 28, 2008 04:28pm EDT
And I usually will skip edited US editions of books written by British authors. It bothers me that some publishers will go through the trouble of "translating" it for US readers.
Wednesday October 29, 2008 12:57am EDT
Of course, what wasn't mentioned on the cover was that humans don't look at all like them, but that the golden witchbreed had enough advanced biotechnology that they could make themselves look however they wanted.
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday October 29, 2008 02:52am EDT
Walk.on.by.
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday October 29, 2008 10:01am EDT
When it comes to online book buying, I rarely buy or pre-order on a whim. I buy I know. If the buzz is good, I'll head over to the B&M store, flip through it to see if I might like it before committing.
This is probably why I liked Tor's free ebook bonanza so much. I really like the Old Man's War, but don't typically read SF. I go more for fantasy. I also tend to turn my nose up at Vampire stories, thinking after Buffy, what's the point? I'll admit to liking the two paranormal stories Tor made available, and am on the lookout for more in the shops, where before, I wouldn't give them the time of day. I buy what I 'think' I'll like, sometimes picking up a title that isn't any good in genre I'm comfortable with over one that's great in a genre I don't care for. In that respect, I'm losing out.
Anecdotally, when my wife and I recognized that we don't necessarily like our wardrobes, we decided it was because we kept buying the same styles over and over. We now buy for each other instead. Problem solved :)
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VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday October 29, 2008 10:57am EDT
Having said that if I've gotten a free sample from Tor or Baen or somewhere like that and I like the content, then price, cover, paperback/hardback, etc. takes second place to finding out what happens in the rest of the book (or series).
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday October 29, 2008 03:21pm EDT
Also, Saturn's Child has a pretty jarring cover, but I bought it anyway since it's Stross and I was not disappointed, the gaudy cover kind of grew on me a little bit.
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday October 29, 2008 03:57pm EDT
Wednesday October 29, 2008 09:59pm EDT
As to what makes me not buy a book... I almost never buy a book on first sight in a bookstore, and if it's something I already know I want, nothing about the cover is likely to deter me. At least, I can't think of any occasions when it has.
Thursday October 30, 2008 07:29pm EDT
Things that tend to put me off a book by a new-to-me author; overt focus on romance, particularly very twentieth-century Western models of romance in a culture supposedly not like that. Blatant political propagandising of any stripe. Vehemently sex-negative or body-negative philosophical positions. (Though mortality-negative is a plus.)
Things that will put me off a book by an author I already know; the realisation on the second or third of theirs I read that what seemed to be interesting and innovative bits of speculation within a given setting turn out to be repeated crotchets based on bizarre political axioms or notions of human nature.
I don't care that much about covers, other than having a mildly obsessive dislike for cover-changes in mid-series, and that I will occasionally pick a UK over a US edition or vice versa if one is significantly more aesthetically pleasing than the others. (Like the US hardcovers of the Baroque Cycle.)
What the various reactions to the cover of Saturn's Children here leave me wondering is, how does one use art to indicate the difference between "here is a book unexaminedly doing trope X yet again" and "here is a book that is aware of trope X and is building on it/pastiching it/subverting it" ?
VIEW ALL BY · Thursday October 30, 2008 11:13pm EDT
Blurbs are pretty meaningless to me, so I largely ignore them.
Summaries that sound too much like novels I've read before will get dropped, particularly the ones where The Fate Of The World rests upon our heroes. Books that take themselves too seriously are no fun to read. Romance-driven novels and coming-of-age stories also get dropped like a hot potato.
If an author has a good cover, a decent summary, and reading a few pages makes me want to keep going, I'm sold. Buzz also really helps to sell the book to me, but that isn't really under publisher control.
VIEW ALL BY · Saturday November 01, 2008 09:54pm EDT
I read Farmer's "To Your Scattered Bodies Go" and "The Fabulous Riverboat" in the mid-1970s, and knew he was working on a sequel. The sequel came out a few years later, and I picked it up, read it, and was annoyed by the cliffhanger ending. Only to be much more annoyed when volume 4 came out, and basically ignored everything connected to that cliffhanger: if we go back to the original metaphor, they've left the sheriff hanging from a tree in Nevada, and picked up the action with a completely different bunch of people somewhere in Oregon. I have been skeptical of unfinished series since. Connected books are fine: mystery writers who use the same viewpoint detective for several books, for example. The difference isn't so much whether the later books depend on the earlier, though that is a factor, but whether the earlier ones can be satisfying if the reader doesn't go on to the later ones. Or if the writer or publisher doesn't.
VIEW ALL BY · Tuesday November 04, 2008 08:09am EST
I am easily put off by "book x in the y series", especially if book 1 isn't there. I don't wish to start a series in the middle! More generally, I will avoid any mainstream book that contains "has an affair" in the back cover copy. Not.interested.
Cover quotes and author blurbs do nothing for me, although I do get annoyed if they're all about the author's previous book. What about this one????
Mostly though it's the writing that makes the decision for me (if I get past the more trivial stuff). I won't buy a book where the writing doesn't grab.
Tuesday November 04, 2008 01:50pm EST
or if it is about a farm boy that becomes a person of high authority.
now on the flip side what turns me on to a book is original cover art or blurbs from authors I have read and enjoyed before.
VIEW ALL BY · Monday November 24, 2008 11:01am EST
Basically, unless it's a novel by an author I love, or I've read a fantastic review, I don't buy a book if I don't know something about what it's about.
Saturday December 27, 2008 06:08pm EST
* Bestsellers (their fame is due to industry marketing, not gutsy writing)
* Industry Favs (books looking like they would appeal to book industry snobs - see many of the posts on this page)
* Straight Genre (due to formulaic, cliche plots and characters)
* Non-Adult (children, teen, pet, etc)
* Uncountable Never-Ending Series (because they have little story arc, except maybe for the first volumes)
* Franchise Tie-Ins (they almost always disappoint, yet become bestsellers despite themselves - again due to marketing, rather than quality)
I mean, I'm not someone who claims to love reading, yet looks for excuses to read only the industry-approved titles. I look for unique stories, new voices, fresh perspectives, learning opportunities. I deeply wish the bookstores (online and off) stocked more independent presses, small presses, one-author presses, digital presses, and FAR less of the New York drivel currently wasting our trees (yeah, yeah, I know they won't, despite the collapse of the "big publishing" industry). I mean, wake up and smell the Matrix!
So, this is what stops me from buying a book - when it looks like it's not a book (a well-crafted, detailed story), but a big media product (an approved purchase). I don't write my own books "to market", because crafting the best work possible is my goal. So, I look for other writers who seem to have similar goals. That's why we're reading - isn't it?
VIEW ALL BY · Thursday January 22, 2009 01:53pm EST
Of course, that doesn't stop me if the story is well-written or I enjoy the author (i.e. George R. R. Martin) and even a wierd cover (J. H. Sierra, Charles Stross) or crappy formatting won't turn me off enough to not read it (though sometimes it can hurt the eyes - I have read many a reprinted classic where whoever published the damn thing has omitted paragraphs). So long as the story or the character catches my interest I'll buy. I'm one of the ones you see in the bookstore reading a few pages from the beginning and/or the middle of all the books.
VIEW ALL BY · Friday January 23, 2009 02:11am EST
Changing genres mid series annoys me. Having established characters act out of character after a series of books showing them a different way with no explanation will make me stop reading.
Having a blurb that doesnt match what was in the book. You only get to do that to me once before I am looking for someone new to read.
Being rude to their fans really honks me off. I've made the effort to get away and travel to see a couple of authors recently and they were so lovely it enhances the reading experience. I dont really need autographs and pictures to "prove" I've met them, but at times I have gotten up and headed over to check things out. The stories some fans tell about some writers annoys me. A couple of friends work in large book stores and they are disappointed at times by the way some authors behave. That stuff accumulates in my head over time and I may just happen to miss the latest release of those authors.
Some online behaviours also can make me not buy an author. It's weird but if I'm hooked I'll keep reading even if i disagree with an authors views on things. New authors that annoy me online prolly wont make it onto my tbr pile.
It's also a time thing. Too busy to absorb too many annoyances. I am reading across 5 different genres at the mo and my tbr pile is now taller than I am.
I find I am using the annoyances to help me cull from the possibilities on offer. Recently I put a book back on the shelf because the cover was so crappy. Being in oz where a paperback will set you back $16-21, a trade paperback $30-35 and a hard back $40-55, authors have to really bring it on the page. I cant afford duds and with the currency getting hammered every other week I dont think things are going to improve on that front any time soon.
Must think more on this.
Great topic.
Sunday May 17, 2009 02:53pm EDT
All this to say that I now inspect the spines of all hardcovers carefully, and if they don't look properly bound, I don't buy them.
Open message to publishers: If things really have gotten to the point where you can't make ends meet except by cutting corners and producing books that fall apart, then STOP ACCEPTING RETURNS! It's that simple. If all the big publishers did it at once, the booksellers would have to accept it.
*rooting for a revolution in the publishing industry*
Sunday May 17, 2009 03:49pm EDT
drifting off topic.
Mass market paperbacks from the 1970s, particularly once stagflation got going and paper prices shot through the roof, tend to have tiny print so I have rooms full of books I find physically difficult to reread (This is sometimes a welcome distraction from the horrifying sexism et cetera that someone used a time machine to insert into what I remember as inoffensive books).