One of the best things about the steampunk community is that it’s very grassroots-based. Small groups mushroom here and there, people get together to hang out and share ideas, and on the whole, there’s a focus on having fun.
That doesn’t mean we’re never in danger of elitism. As I said before in Steampunk as Subculture, we steampunks are still part of a larger cultural context that has taught us many behaviours—and most of us have learnt some form of elitism. It can be as ordinary-looking as preferring a certain method of steampunking and looking down at others who do it differently, or it can be as nasty as cronyism and ruining other people fun at events.
I think we all can agree that we got into steampunk because, on top of everything else about this which is terribly shiny, it is a hella lotta fun. And some of us, we don’t realize it when some things we say or do quash the fun for others. This is all right, but for those of you getting defensive—and some of you probably will—remember:
We are not immune to assuming certain standards are better than others. This is really fairly normal, as far any gathering of people go. Some steampunks think that everything that is built should be functional, and others scorn inaccurate costuming. Some steampunks expect a certain look from everyone who claims to be a steampunk. Others may simply think a slapdash look and feel to costuming or prop-making just isn’t good enough. It’s okay to have standards, not okay to complain about steampunk being cheapened by someone doing something you don’t think is good enough.
We are not immune to snobbery. Snubbing is the activity of the snobs who feel we must adhere to specific standards of behavior, dress, and craftsmanship. At an event, everybody should be having fun with each other, not sniping in the corner about someone we don’t like and look down on.
We are not immune to politicking. Oh, politics, and I don’t mean mainstream R vs. D politics, I just mean the tendency for some to try to grab authourity over others. If you want to take on a leadership role in your own spaces and events, that’s fine, but ultimately, the leadership position belongs to someone who wants everyone else to have fun. If the competition to get it is making things un-fun, you’ve completely defeated the purpose of it, eh?
We don’t all act like this. We know that steampunk is one of the friendliest subcultures out there. The people it attracts are, as a general rule, friendly, willing to share and participate, and not necessarily given to grousing their grievances.
However, it can happen. It may not have happened yet, but that’s no reason to not look hard at our own privileges and behaviours, our ways of imposing standards and judging others. There is no way of knowing how free we are of these little habits which will lead to elitism. It behooves us, as a community, to watch ourselves and, because we may not always be aware if we’re behaving obnoxiously, not get defensive if we’re called out on bad behavior.
Elitism has affected a great deal of other small communities—from calling for higher standards of dress to people being shunned because they’re “not [X factor] enough.” Let’s make sure it doesn’t affect steampunk.
Jha is an unbelievable snob, sometimes takes herself too seriously, and admits it. She would like to be ensconced in a high ivory tower, but academia takes money.
VIEW ALL BY · Friday October 09, 2009 12:38pm EDT
Frankly I am proud to consider myself an elitist. Life is not about fun but doing things that are worth doing. Or to quote Plimy it is about doing what is worth being written about and reading what was worth writing about.
VIEW ALL BY · Friday October 09, 2009 01:16pm EDT
@1
Perhaps we can find a middle ground? True, everybody views the world around them by establishing inevitable (and often quite helpful) systems of hierarchy (e.g., things that take precedence of other things, not necessarily people), but in order for growth and the prevention of mindless conflict it's generally best to build into certain systems a Wiggle Room Factor.
Furthermore, the argument that some art is better than others is difficult to argue without identifying what is meant by the term "better." Perhaps you mean the way in which it is received by the audience, in which case it is purely a matter of opinion? Or in the intent of the artist, which is also subjective except in places where the art meets or fails to meet generally accepted ideas of What Art Is (a loaded question in itself). Reapply that metaphor to steampunk and you begin to run into exactly the same problems.
Be nice. Accept others, but don't compromise yourself. There. :)
VIEW ALL BY · Friday October 09, 2009 01:36pm EDT
Steampunk's one of the most elitist forms of fandom simply because it depends on modeling itself on the penultimate Western empire that wasn't Nazi Germany. That culture's conventions depend on Lords, Ladies, people of independent means able to fashion shiny gew-gaws that assert craftsmanship and competence. That bespeaks vast material resources to support even roleplaying in that culture.
I thought one of the draws of steampunk *was* the relief in being able to discard relativist moral viewpoints, and again make fine distinctions concerning craft and character. It's the refuge we run to after the Bomb lent atrocity a larger weight than innovation in shaping modern scientific reputation.
Back in the day when one could paint Asia and Africa red with native blood, no one dared question the scientist's collaboration with Empire. It was a stripped-down morality. Pretending that morality is now race-, class- and gender-neutral does a disservice to the past -- that's why we have to be so cautious now, in not reviving those prejudices disguised as standards.
Friday October 09, 2009 02:10pm EDT
Even if Pliny, Muhammed AND Burt Reyonolds said it, that's an opinion. Whether your base your life on it has no bearing whatsoever on whether person A, B, or C should or would want to base their life on it. One's viewpoint cannot be universal, but this likewise doesn't invalidate it for that single person. Or whether they consider the aim of life to be enjoyable, challenging, selfish or selfless, etc.
I think it behooves every individual to keep an eye on themselves for elitism. It's often very small, and innocuous, but can cause a lot of snowballing disorder and hurt when those people gather in larger groups of any sort, be it subculture or political gathering.
"Elitism" and "standards" are two different things and shouldn't be equated too easily, in the same vein. For example: preferring something one way over another is OK. Judging another who doesn't prefer the same sets is not OK.
I thought that went without saying, but maybe I'm wrong.
As fas a a "stripped down" moral code goes... that was never the draw for ME to steampunk. The aesthetic of craft taken as it is NOW. There's nothing saying we have to relive the prejudices of the past simply because we appropriate the aesthetic of that era. Any student of history can find out why something was the way it was, culturally, but that's no reason not to enjoy the achievements of that regime's artistic/mechanical sensibilities.
VIEW ALL BY · Friday October 09, 2009 02:12pm EDT
Especially when we're talking about a subculture like Steampunk, a relief from the everyday grind and a dip into fantasy, hrm? Having to obey someone else's rules just sounds a little too much like work... :/
(Besides, the control freaks totally water down the cool!)
Friday October 09, 2009 02:21pm EDT
Friday October 09, 2009 03:03pm EDT
Sure, some of our uniforms or costumes or DIY projects or whatever may be more elaborate than others; we are not all blessed with the same gifts or the same level of income. But we all do the best we can with what we are given, especially in this community. And seriously, looking down on someone else because your cosplay is more "authentic" or your goggles are real brass or whatever, is just silly.
Friday October 09, 2009 03:37pm EDT
Many people in the steampunk community got into it out of a love of craftsmanship and beautiful utility. When other people have non-functional props, it can lessen the satisfaction that craftspeople get out of steampunk. I think this is why many people who prefer craftsmanship in their steampunk become elitists. They're trying to preserve the fun that they originally got from the subculture.
Some people who get into steampunk do it *because* of the elitism. As cdthomas said, some people simply like being able to have a stripped down moral code for a while. They are elitist in order to enjoy steampunk.
In general, I think that your advice to not be elitist and to not engage in politicking may actually remove a lot of the fun that some people get from steampunk. I don't think that proscribing this behavior is a good solution to the problem.
Instead of advising people to not be elitist, I think it would be better to advise them to not purposely ruin someone else's fun. If you like being elitist and that's annoying other people, go be elitist elsewhere. If tacky props annoy you, maybe help people get better equipment instead of looking down on them.
On the other side of things, if someone starts calling your brand of steampunk inferior or treating you poorly, I think the best solution is to ignore them and avoid them.
VIEW ALL BY · Friday October 09, 2009 04:20pm EDT
I.E. People that constantly try to call Terry Gilliam's "Brazil" Steampunk. That bugs me to no end, because it's painfully obvious Brazil is an homage to 1984, Brave New World, Atlas Shrugged, etc.
The only reason people call it Steampunk is because the technology is mostly pre-WW2. I know it's a minor quibble, and kind of pointless. But if enough people do it, eventually the entire point of Steampunk becomes lost. Then what happens? It's the same thing that happened to the Goth scenes. All of these random people started referring to all of these random bands by that term, and now people seem to think that music like Limp Bizkit, Korn and Slipknot is somehow related to Goth.
VIEW ALL BY · Friday October 09, 2009 04:53pm EDT
Kendu: If you don't know what extremity is, then you don't know what moderation looks like ;D
cdthomas: Yes. And no. (You're going to very quickly get sick of me at this rate.) Some of us are attracted to the fandom because it offers an alternative to greatest empire before Nazi Germany.
etchlings and Lannis: Yes, exactly. The roleplaying and persona thing is cool and all, but some of us just like the DIY, or the clothes, or some other facet. We should be able to watch ourselves to make sure we don't call into behaviours that ruin each other's fun.
Terry Martin: And ain't that a rub! Yay, mainstream love! Boo, mainstream jerks. Although, I've heard tell of a steampunk project that has been able to positively affect the mainstream.
Jonny B. Goode: That is exactly the kind of boorishness I'm talking out against, and I've heard similar complaints before as well. I do think it's one of those things which varies depending on locale.
fractal: To me, being an elitist is specifically about ruining another person's fun by holding different standards and expecting them to conform to it. It sounds to me that you're saying some people get into steampunk so they can keep others out? Most people join groups because they get something out of the group - a bonding experience, a place for support, a creative outlet - it's counter-productive to assume people join groups so they can be mean to others. Even those assuming obnoxious personas don't do it to piss other people off.
Maybe I'm totally optimistic, but I don't think most people who exhibit elitist behaviours do that to be purposefully obnoxious.
VernianProcess: Yes, that's a peeve of mine too. I think the more we explore different facets of steampunk, though, the easier it will be to better delineate what being steampunk means. I know I would very much like to avoid the traps that subcultures preceiding ours have fallen into; I happen to think elitism is one of these pitfalls.
VIEW ALL BY · Friday October 09, 2009 07:39pm EDT
You, in the corner, your boondoggle needs more red!
And I told you pink bunny mittens and yellow tap shoes, not yellow bunny mittens and pink tap shoes!
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VIEW ALL BY · Friday October 09, 2009 10:21pm EDT
Kendu: Oh, all righty then. ^^ Well, your point about being true to yourself also still stands!
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Friday October 09, 2009 11:01pm EDT
Of course most of the steampunks I've met have been very friendly, fun loving people ; )
Saturday October 10, 2009 12:38am EDT
That is only a particular expression of Steampunk fandom, though. For those who aren't "revolutionaries", whose interest in Steampunk is a genuine affection for Victorian Sci-Fi and cosplay, elitism should be much easier to shake. That alternative aesthetic is simply an interest shared by some and not shared by others, rather than a pseudo-revolutionary judgement on everyone who doesn't share it or do it the same way as oneself.
VIEW ALL BY · Saturday October 10, 2009 12:59pm EDT
My only rule for whether someone qualifies as a Steampunk, is whether or not they like the Steampunk aesthetic.
That's it. No more, no less. Do you like this stuff? Yes? Well then you are a Steampunk.
Sunday October 11, 2009 09:30pm EDT
Also remember...Just because you can do something better than someone, doesn't make you a better person, nor does it mean that anyone should kowtow to you. I've run into this in SCA circles as well, where someone thinks that because their costuming is more accurate, period, ornamented, or artistic, that people should bow and scrape and kiss their behinds. So you have the most elaborate, period correct, brass goggles and everything costume...All that matters squat if you're making disparraging comments about someone else's outfit. If your making nasty, snarky remarks about someone else's effort, then you're not better...you're just an ass.
Art is in the eye of the beholder. Good, bad, or mediocre are mere opinions...and I think one should take the advice of so many parents and grandparents, and simply refrain from saying anything, if what you are going to say is unpleasant. If you can't say something nice, then don't say anything.
Wednesday October 28, 2009 09:27am EDT