Lots of us read across the board when it comes to speculative fiction. Others are pickier. There are those who say they “only read fantasy” or “only read science fiction” or “only read horror.” I could argue with those of you falling into these categories, telling you how you should expand your speculative horizons, how you’re missing out on some great stories, and so on. But I’m not going there—too big and unwieldy of a debate would ensue. Instead, I’m going to try to get some of you “I only read fantasy” readers to stick your proverbial toe into those science fiction waters of wonder. In particular, I’m talking to you lovers of secondary fantasy worlds. I know, I know. You prefer dragons to rockets, magic to science, and someone wielding a sword is way cooler than someone firing a laser gun. I get that, I do. While I’ve enjoyed plenty of science fiction, I feel the same way. So trust me when I say that if there was ever a science fiction novel for you, the secondary world fantasy fan set in his/her ways, Dune is it.
Why Dune you ask? To begin with, Dune was written by Frank Herbert, who is widely considered one of the greatest writers to ever grace the field of speculative fiction. Second, Dune was first published as a novel in 1965 (a shorter serialized version appeared in Analog Magazine before this) and over forty years later it remains in print. Third, I’ll mention that Dune carries some respectable heft, which many of you folks like because you want to “fall into” a long book.
If you’re still reading that’s good, though I’d imagine it’s still with a wary eye. So let me move into the hard sell. Dune takes place in a far-flung future where thinking machines have been outlawed (recall when this was written and this concept becomes even cooler). Hence there are serious limits on the super-science gadgets and the techno-babble. Good, right?
Keep listening. Humankind occupies the farthest reaches of known space. It is a mighty empire, comprising many planets, and it is ruled by the Padishah Emperor Shadam the IV from his home-world of Kaitain. Normally such an intergalactic empire requires spaceships and such, FTL drives or some other super-science means of travel. Well, in this world there are indeed spaceships, but for long-range travel, these ships are reliant on a substance known as melange, more commonly referred to as Spice.
The Spice is the most valuable substance in the universe. It expands life and extends consciousness. It is also responsible for the transformation of the Guild Navigators. The Guild Navigators were once human, but over time their massive Spice consumption has turned them into something else, infusing them with inhuman abilities. Their most important ability is that they’re able to “fold space.” Basically, this allows them to create a temporary but stable wormhole from one point to another, enabling ships to move throughout the universe. It makes the empire possible. It makes civilization possible. It is the oil of this universe. But there are no plausible scientific explanations for how the Spice enables men to do these things. It is such a fundamental part of this far-flung future that the reader is expected to accept its function instead of questioning the science behind such a thing. In other words, it is a fantastical premise Herbert inserted into a science fictional world to enable him to tell the story he wanted to tell. It’s woven into the tale so smoothly and on so many levels that most science fiction fans accept its use despite the lack of technical explanations and its seeming implausibility, and most fantasy fans just straight-up appreciate the fantastical resonance of this substance.
The Spice exists on only one planet called Arrakis, or Dune. Dune is one of the most inhospitable worlds in the entire empire. It is a desert world regularly pummeled by storms that can tear the flesh off a man’s bones. The natives of this world are the Fremen, a hardened people who live in various tribes, or sietches. Their numbers are vast and they are extremely hostile toward outsiders. But it isn’t the brutal sun, the desert winds, or the Fremen that are the greatest dangers on Arrakis. No. That would be the giant, giant (yeah, they’re that big) sand worms, creatures that live in the deep desert, burrowing through the sands with all the ease of a fish through water. Little is known about the sand worms, except by the Fremen, who worship the great worms as gods.
Now let’s talk a little bit about Paul Atreides, the protagonist of this novel. Paul is the son of Duke Leto Atreides, who has risen to a position of great power among the other nobles. In fact, his power has become such that the Padishah Emperor has come to see the Duke as a threat. So he is handing Duke Leto the keys to Dune, placing him in charge of all Spice production. Given how valuable the Spice is, this might seem like a foolish maneuver, but it is part of a vaster political game meant to topple the Duke from power.
Paul is fifteen years old when the novel starts. Very early on we learn Paul might be the Kwisatz Haderach, a product of a centuries-old breeding program orchestrated by the Bene Gesserit, an extremely powerful sisterhood of women with strange and awesome (some believe mystical) powers, who are some of the most powerful political players in the universe. However, if Paul is the Kwisatz Haderach, he has been born a generation too early, because Paul’s mother, the Lady Jessica, a Bene Gesserit herself, defied the orders of her superiors and provided Duke Leto a son instead of a daughter.
Now this possible Kwisatz Haderach, who would represent the ultimate genetic achievement of traditional human breeding, is going to live on the most important planet in the universe, where he’ll be surrounded by a substance that is known to alter and expand consciousness. And it just so happens that the Fremen have an ancient prophecy about an off-worlder who will unite the tribes and lead them to greatness (I’m simplifying the prophecy). Put all of this together and the universe shall be changed forevermore.
There are at least five important plot threads I haven’t even touched on with this overview, and more than a dozen key characters I haven’t mentioned (including the main villains, who are awesome). But even with these basics, you can see how for all of its science fictional elements, the bones of this story give off a major fantastical vibe. Think about it: a strange and powerful substance of great value that provides wonderful gifts to its users …armies of desert warriors …giant sand monsters …prophecies …a sisterhood many believe to be witches …a society of navigators shrouded in secrecy who open portals to places far away through their strange abilities …any and all of examples would be perfectly at home in a fantasy novel. They’re all in Dune and I’ve only given you the slightest taste of how complex this universe and story are.
Dune is one of the most multilayered novels you’ll ever read. There are enough plot threads and twists to satisfy the most demanding epic fantasy fans. The world-building is detailed enough to throw down with the likes of J.R.R. Tolkien and George R. R. Martin. You are also provided a small army of fascinating characters. But it just so happens that this novel leans a little more toward science fiction, so this is how it’s always been marketed. But the science fictional elements shouldn’t bother you fantasy fans, not the way Herbert handles them.
Dune holds up quite well as a standalone novel, but if you want to read more when you finish it there are five more books in the series. There is also a host of prequels and additional sequels written posthumously by Herbert’s son, Brian Herbert, and co-author Kevin J. Anderson. Some folks just like the original novel, others have enjoyed some or all of Frank Herbert’s sequels, and still others are enjoying these recent additions by Brian Herbert & Kevin J. Anderson. But just about all fans will agree the original novel is the best of the bunch. I am no exception. Dune is one of the true jewels in all of speculative fiction, and if you’re a secondary world fantasy fan who has never dabbled in the sf trade, I can’t recommend a better place to start. Scratch that. If you haven’t read Dune, no matter what your reading preferences are, I can’t recommend it enough.
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday April 08, 2009 09:36am EDT
Yes, I've read Dune. I loved Dune. Part of it was the truest part of the "Science Fiction", the technology that is plot integral, which is the technology that allows for FTL travel and personal body shields and makes projectile and energy based weapons nearly useless. That means, yes, there is sword/knife fighting, albeit somewhat odd. That makes it kinda awesome there.
One technical point I feel compelled to point out (and I am sure others would as well), the Spice itself doesn't make the FTL travel. Science made that, but the Spice allows the navigators to safely use it, kinda like the Force let Anakin fly in the pod races (to reference a bad movie). The idea of Spice folding space came out of the movie with Sting and Patrick Stewart. The true magic of the spice (aside from its geriatric property), was that it gave prescience and future-sight.
As to the sequels, they take you for a loop, so "Reader Beware" and there is lots of discussion of in it the "What Series do you Like" and "Better to have loved and lost" threads that have been posted recently.
But yes, as a person who typically prefers Fantasy, Dune is a very good read as it does blend alot of fantasical elements in.
Wednesday April 08, 2009 09:44am EDT
I have since read the series twice and even diverged off into some of the prequel/sequel books. This book definitely opened me up to the world of scifi, and now I am an avid scifi fan because of it.
Wednesday April 08, 2009 10:05am EDT
Oh and you are correct the sandworms are huge (think skyscraper size) and the Harkonens (the evil dudes) are wonderful.
STAY AWAY from any movie or TV version of this. None have done it justice and I have just about decided it is impossible for any to do so.
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday April 08, 2009 10:20am EDT
so the intimate physical nature of hand to hand combat that many action fantasy fans appreciate is well and truly preserved.
For those that haven't read the book and wonder how hand to hand works in an age with guns and lasers:
basic premis is that most armies use personal shields, which block anything moving over a certain speed, e.g. bullets, arrows and the like, and also have a rather drastic reaction to being hit with lasers... sorta nuclear scale. so lasers are pretty much never used on the battlefield as if you're close enough to light it up, you're close enough to be turned into a little pile of ash.
So, prophecies, swords, magical abilities of persuation... if you as a fantasy fan liked those elements of say star wars, Dune is like that without Mr. Lucas's influence.
Yet then theres the sequels. Maybe Lucas was involved.
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday April 08, 2009 10:20am EDT · amended on Wednesday April 08, 2009 10:22am EDT
Having said that a few of my favourite books are scifi, and I generally prefer scifi films to fantasy films (even if i do annoy the people with me by pointing out the plot holes)
Dune is pretty good, its along time since I read it but as far as I remember its more of a fantasy book with a few advanced technologies.
Wednesday April 08, 2009 11:06am EDT
If you are interested in works that straddle the fantasy/scifi divide, Roger Zelazny wrote a lot of that. He wasn't one for big books, but Jack of Shadows took place on a world that had stopped rotating, where the dark side was a realm of fantasy while the light side was the technoscience, we-don't-believe-in-magic side. The hero is pretty engaging and it's a super-quick read. His best of that ilk, though, would have to be Lord of Light, a Hugo winner from '66 or so, about a group of spacemen who set themselves up as gods modelled on the Hindu pantheon, to be worshipped by the untechnical native population, until there is a rift between the gods of those who want to actually inhibit the development of the people and those who want to encourage them.
Oh, Isle of the Dead by Zelazny is also excellent in that respect. Can't recommend him enough, unless your ideal scifi is Poul Anderson-style hard scifi, then you probably won't like it.
CT
Lastly, I've got to disagree with dcoles78. Don't watch Lynch's movie instead or before the book, but apart from that I think it's great. Only complaint was that the movie didn't make me thirsty enough.
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday April 08, 2009 11:16am EDT
Regardless of how it is classified, this is an excellent book. The setting and some of the characters (esp. the Fremen) have stuck with me. Over 15 years after reading this book I can still vividly picture stillsuits, thumpers, completely blue eyes ... ah, the memories!
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday April 08, 2009 11:59am EDT · amended on Wednesday April 08, 2009 12:44pm EDT
I'm one of the few people who actually read, and kinda liked, ALL of the original series (the 'prequels' are an abomination), but a lot of this has to do with the fact that I think (Spoiler) is a kick-ass character and he appears as pretty much the main character throughout those later books. No argument though that the first volume is the best by far, but I'd say no one could go too far wrong reading the first three books of the series since they present a more or less complete story-arc for the rise of the Atreides family.
Wednesday April 08, 2009 12:55pm EDT
For the Jordan/WOT fans, there are many similarities in the two worlds:
Citations to historical sources from pre-post events: both books
Lots of economics and ecology woven into storyline: both books
Paul/Perrin = Rand
Bene Gesserits = Aes Sedai
Head of BGs - Mix of Siuan and Elaida
Jessica = Moiraine
Baron Harkonnen = Padan Fain (but w/o magic)
Duncan Idaho = Lan
Gurney Hallek = Thom Merrilin
Fremen = Aiel
Stigar = Rhuarc
Chani = Aviendha
Probably more but that's enough for now. Rob
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday April 08, 2009 01:44pm EDT
And you can tell when a novel is of good caliber stays in the general consciousness of the population when you still get references to it today, like Dune Cat
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VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday April 08, 2009 06:42pm EDT
Never got therough the other books. Dune Messiah became predictable and I put it aside.
But the original is a masterpiece
Also, as far as movies, Dune has been well covered.
The first version from David Lynch was very goos as a Science Fiction piece - and acceptable if you had not read the book - Kyle McLaughlin's hair was a joke throughout the movie, but that and his smiling could be forgiven.
The TV movie kept very faithful to the book, but Paul was a little less believable than - overall a much better adaptation.
Wednesday April 08, 2009 06:52pm EDT
To add one - Duke Leto = Davrahm Bashere (if he were king rather than marshall general and had a wife with a lot more secrets and secret skills)
The main character in Dune, Paul, is more intriguing than Rand. Younger (only 15) but trained since birth by his father to lead men, by Duncan and Gurney to fight, by Thufir to act as a human computer, and by his mother with special Bene Gesserit muscle control, voice control and fighting techniques -- everyone treating him as their special best pupil. And he's a nice, thoughtful kid to boot. When the bad guys bring all sorts of bad stuff down on the Atreides family, he puts all sorts of things together in an interesting way.
I'm a fan - can't help it. I did my own re-read two years ago and loved it again. Read it (especially you Erdick). Rob
Wednesday April 08, 2009 07:28pm EDT
Wednesday April 08, 2009 08:08pm EDT
I don't think Jordan was stealing when he created the Aes Sedia, but they do have a relation to the Bene Gesserits. As do the Aiel to Freman, though the Aiel are based on native American cultures, and the Freman are based on Arabic cultures.
Jordan was influenced by Frank Hubert, while Goodkind commited grand theft against Jordan, as far as I'm concerned. (Though, I have to admit some of the books of the Sword of Truth series are quite good.)
I suppose it could be difficult to tell the difference between stealing ideas and just being influenced.
Wednesday April 08, 2009 08:25pm EDT
Wednesday April 08, 2009 08:45pm EDT
Guild Navigators do not fold space, Holtzman Generators do. The spice enables the Navigator to see into the future and be assured that they will survive the trip.
The Prescient Navigator replaces the Navigation Computer, he in no way propels the ship.
Even Paul's prescient ability is broken down in technical terms. He has human computer (mentat) abilities he has secretly been trained for since infancy. When exposed to the spice, a consciousness expanding drug, he can see all possible futures, not THE future.
There is no MAGIC in Dune and that is what seperates it from fantasy.
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday April 08, 2009 09:11pm EDT
As for Dune, I have been through the whole series several times and while I agree that the first book is the best, the rest that Frank Herbert wrote ain't half-bad either. I'm not super analytical when I read, but I seem to recall that most of the stuff in the prequels (which I did enjoy, if not as much as the original series) was at least mentioned, if not referenced in some detail in the original series. I could easily be wrong on that one however.
I was quite pleased to get the wrap-up of the series (Hunters of Dune and Sandworms of Dune) even though I saw the ending coming.
Anyhoo, good writing is good writing and there is a lot of it out there in all kinds of different genres. In my distant past I've read stuff as varied as historical fiction (Van Wyck Mason, etc.), spy thrillers and a wide variety of murder mysteries.
Enough already...
Wednesday April 08, 2009 09:23pm EDT
That said, none of this changes my assessment that this is science fiction that fantasy fans can appreciate. Whatever science is in this is very barebone and there are still a lot of elements in this book more commonly found in fantasy tales.
Fantasy fans, do not be scared off by the mention of the Holtmann Generator!
Wednesday April 08, 2009 09:35pm EDT
Wednesday April 08, 2009 09:44pm EDT
Some other fantasy/sci-fi cross-overs: Anne McCaffery, Lois McMaster Bujold, Roger Zelazny, some Robert Heinlein, Ray Bradbury (his are spooky too!).
And one story that was..um..influenced by...the first 3 Dune books...Matrix! Watch the last movie and then read Children of Dune.
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday April 08, 2009 10:17pm EDT
The so called 'prequels' and ending are to use a descripter from the Duniverse - abominations.
Wednesday April 08, 2009 10:28pm EDT
VIEW ALL BY · Thursday April 09, 2009 07:49am EDT
The way it started out seemed a bit more of a "young adult adventure" kind of book, but then eventually morphed into something much more. Tonally there are distinct "breaks" in the book. It seems to me in part a side-effect of writing books in pre-word processor days, since I'd imagine that, today, if there was a "change of direction", the author would go back to the beginning and start editing to make it more homogenous?
Friday April 10, 2009 02:33am EDT
One of the most interesting things about Herbert was that when compared to Clarke and Azimov (the only two peers he had in his lifetime) was that where they promoted a variety of hard-Scifi entrenched in the issues of physics and chemistry, Herbert was more interested in ecology, biology, sociology, and psychology, and even comparative religion.
In Herbert's works the issues of consciousness and how it shapes self and society were always more central than, say, physics (e.g. how to land a spacecraft on the end of a spinning cylinder cf. Rendez-vous with Rama) or engineering (e.g. how to control an artificial intelligence syllogistically c.f Azimov's 'Robot' novels).
Frank Herbert is as much a fantasist as Ursula K. LeGuin or Doris Lessing: that the worlds they all created are vivid and present inconsistencies just like our own. Herbert was different, in as far as his worlds were textured and exotic.
Before the X-Files there was The Santaroga Barrier, before Stargate or SG:1 there was the Dosadi Experiment and Whipping Star.
The White Plague stands along side The Handmaid's Tale in exploring a world of gender decimation.
Read Herbert's other novels too: yeah they seem dated now, but that's because so many of his ideas were scavenged by others and have become main stream.
VIEW ALL BY · Friday April 10, 2009 07:52am EDT
also wondering what would be a good example of the reverse of this i.e. fantasy that sci fi readers would like. I suppose Pern might count, altho really that's sci fi masquerading as fantasy again. Honestly, the first thing that comes to mind is Song of Ice and Fire--except instead of "science" as its basis we have an entirely fictional history. This history serves as background to the story, and it is incredibly important, even tho it's stll background material. The more you read, the more you learn and the more things begin to make sense: Most of what happens in the books is a result of a complex ar that happened 15 years before, and this has affected how various noble families think of one another. I like it immensely, because it is so internally consistent. Also, GRRM is an awesome writer just in general
Friday April 10, 2009 09:36am EDT
Friday April 10, 2009 10:59am EDT
if "Dune" is still too sci-fi for you, I'd suggest Gene Wolfe's "Shadow of the Torturer," a sci-fi story set in a positively medieval far-distant future. If you don't read closely -- and you should, because Wolfe' prose calls to mind the line from "Angela's Ashes" where the narrator says reading Shakespeare is like having "jewels in my mouth" -- you could even miss the sci-fi underpinnings of the story (well, at least until you get to the fourth book).