Nancy Lebovitz asked a very interesting question on her livejournal today. She wondered:
whether there are any good nominees for the Great World Novel, and whether it’s viewed as a worthy artistic ambition.
Obviously, you can’t fit the whole world into a novel (you can’t fit America in, either, and if you’re really paying attention, you’ll realize that you can’t even do full justice to Lichtenstein), but it isn’t crazy to think that a long novel could have a decent range of geography, time, and sub-cultures across the whole planet.
The Great American Novel is a joke everyone has heard at this point. But in case you haven’t, the idea is that the novel would encapsulate the American experience, not just be set in the USA. As Nancy says, hard to do even with somewhere the size of Lichtenstein. As for a Great World Novel—what would it be like? I can think of lots of great novels set in particular places. Vikram Seth’s A Suitable Boy is a Great Indian Novel and so is Rushdie’s Midnight’s Children. S.P. Somtow’s Jasmine Nights is a great Thai novel. But it’s hard to think of anything that has enough of the planet in it to meet Nancy’s requirements.
To answer Nancy’s first question, no, I don’t think this is something people are especially trying to do, or we’d see more possibilities. I think it would be an interesting thing for people to try to do. I can’t think of anything at all that qualifies if you need characters coming from lots of different countries. It’s hard to think what sort of plot you could have. I suppose one of those sprawling plots where people meet somewhere and then meet up again somewhere else much later and things have happened to them? But you’d need to know so much about so many different cultures. A lot of people don’t feel comfortable writing outside their own culture, because no matter how much research you do you’re bound to get things wrong, so that’s going to limit attempts.
If you allow things with protagonists all from one place wandering around the world, I have some thoughts.
The first thing is Jon Evans Dark Places. It’s a thriller, and the protagonist is a Canadian who starts off in Nepal, with a history in Africa, and during the book travels to Europe, North America and other parts of Africa. The sequel Blood Price starts in Bosnia and visits lots of places including South America. If you take both books together they might qualify.
Then there’s Neal Stephenson’s Baroque Cycle. These three books are set in the seventeenth century, and while large chunks of them are set in England, characters also visit Africa, Japan, the American Colonies, France, Germany, other parts of Europe, Russia, the Ottoman Empire and I’m sure I’m forgetting somewhere. Their only disqualification would be that they’re historical novels, so they show a lot of the planet, but a long time ago. Also in historical fiction, Dorothy Dunnett’s Niccolo books get around most of the discovered planet at the time they were set—Iceland to Timbuktu.
For a more contemporary picture, there’s Stephenson’s Cryptonomicon. This has largely American characters, but is set in California, the Phillipines, Australia, England, Shanghai, Princeton and assorted other places. I’d think it qualified. And it’s just as well, because what else is there? Seth’s brilliant Two Lives might qualify, if it were a novel rather than a memoir.
To go back to the translation thread, there may be lots of brilliant things out there that qualify but which I don’t know about because they’re not translated. But most of what I can think of that is translated is trying to be the Great Novel of its own culture, not a Great World Novel.
In SF, there’s Stand on Zanzibar, which has the US, Britain, France, Africa and Indonesia. You’d think SF, which does acknowledge that Earth is a planet, would try harder to set stories there. But I can’t really think of anything that does—again, lots of stories set in one place. Maybe people want to preserve Aristotelean unities?
So, any more suggestions for Great World Novels, in any genre? Remember it ought to be great—and it also has to have a “decent range of geography, time and sub-cultures” which I’m thinking means at least four countries on at least two continents, at least two of them not English-speaking.
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So, Great Earthling Novel, perhaps, not Great World Novel? What about 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea or Moby Dick?
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Thursday February 26, 2009 03:22pm EST
I have read it, though for the purposes of this comment I got those details off Wikipedia. Even so, it is kind of Western-centric - not much Africa, South America, Central Asia etc.
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Thursday February 26, 2009 04:15pm EST
The Great World novel should be something that transcends borders...not one that includes as many of them as possible.
Thursday February 26, 2009 04:16pm EST
Again, I have read it, honest, but cut & pasted the details off Wikipedia. It covers the 600 years after 1405 in alternative-history mode and includes: Christendom, imperial China, Mughal India and the colonisation of empty Europe, discovery of the New World by the Chinese military, the Islamic renaissance in Samarqand, Native Americans aligning with the Samurai, Qing dynasty meets Islam in western China, industrialism in Southern India, Japanese diaspora to North America, a world-wide Long War, fought with 'modern' weapons, and science, urban life and feminism in Islamic Europe's post-war metropolis.
Certainly covers your “decent range of geography, time and sub-cultures” anyway.
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Friday is sort of a World Novel, but I'm not sure I'd call it Great. (Good, sure.) But of all the nominees to date I think I like Stand on Zanzibar best.
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But if we want a book that brings us places both on earth and in imaginary realms, I think both The Odyssey and The Seven Voyages of Sinbad the Sailor are both strong contenders for Great World "Novel".
Taking a riff from AnotherAndrew, I will mention two Great Martian Novels: Bradbury's Martian Chronicles, Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars trilogy.
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India.
VIEW ALL BY · Thursday February 26, 2009 10:23pm EST
It seems that if someone wanted to write a Great World Novel today, the global economic collapse offers a pretty clear illustration of the same principle.
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Friday February 27, 2009 07:38am EST
Except they weren't. License on Stephenson's part. Wootz, "Damascus steel", of which there really was significant export from south India during the time period The Baroque Cycle is set, has a different microstructure than the steel found in Japanese swords, where the patterning in the steel is caused by repeated folding and welding, sort of like puff pastry.
Since the same guy who investigated the technological history of the one also did the other (Cyril Stanley Smith), I don't think it's a lapse on Stephenson's part, unless he's picked up some weird sword mythology pursuing his martial art.
Incidentally, there is a copy of Gemelli Careri's epic voyage around the world which inspired Stephenson online, but it's not in an obvious place: a Canadian history website as part of a larger volume of travel narratives published in the 18th century.
7: The early modern history of technology and globalization is one of my areas of interest, and from that perspective let me just say that The Years of Rice and Salt sucks. It might have other redeeming qualities, although I myself didn't find them in the plot or the prose. It is ambitious, though.
Friday February 27, 2009 04:16pm EST
"The narrative takes place between the 1893 Chicago World's Fair and the time immediately following World War I and features more than a hundred characters spread across the United States, Europe, Mexico, Central Asia, and "one or two places not strictly speaking on the map at all," according to the book jacket blurb written by Pynchon."
Of course, it's fantastical historical fiction, and critical response at the time of its release was somewhat mixed, but I'd argue that it is certainly a Great Novel, at least a novel written by one of the Greatest Novelists.
Saturday February 28, 2009 07:56pm EST
I'll second the recommendations of earlier posters for Cloud Atlas and The Years of Rice and Salt, and mention David Mitchell's Ghostwritten as well, a set of ten linked novellas, each of which shares at least one character with the previous and following novellas, mostly mainstream until a sf'nal element shows up a bit more than halfway through (IIRC). Settings include Japan, China, Mongolia, the U.S., Britain and some other places I can't recall.
Several of Bruce Sterling's novels have a fairly global scope in their range of settings (Islands in the Net, Holy Fire, Zeitgeist), but I can't recall any with a large internationally diverse cast of characters.