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Aug 7 2014 3:22pm

New Batman v Superman Rumors Hint at When Exactly the Dawn of Justice Actually Begins

Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice plot details rumors timeline Bruce Wayne Wonder Woman Superman

Have that grain of salt ready? Because it’s time for an unconfirmed Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice rumor! Badass Digest is purporting to have some intel on the movie’s plot, especially its timeline as compared to the Batman mythos as we usually know it, Man of Steel, and Wonder Woman’s own history.

We already knew that Ben Affleck would play an aging Bruce Wayne. But Badass Digest claims that when Bat v Supes opens, Wayne will have already been Batman for 30-odd years, pushing him into his 50s:

In this version Batman is still an urban legend, a creature of the night, and no one has ever taken his picture. But he’s had plenty of adventures, and the Batcave includes a memorial centered around a tattered Robin costume.

Aww! Still, this is a keen way to solidly distance Batman v Superman from Christopher Nolan’s Dark Knight trilogy, by making this Caped Crusader a more withdrawn figure playing the long game, rather than a bombastic force making headlines by leaving Gotham, training in foreign prisons, drag-racing through Gotham in his souped-up Batmobile (“this isn’t a car”), and getting publicly called out by villains on TV and at football stadiums.

As io9 points out, that would make Superman’s appearance in Man of Steel one of the last, not first, instances of superheroics—which doesn’t seem to quite match up with the astonishment he inspired in that movie. And what of Wonder Woman? Badass Digest says that she also keeps her heroics on the down-low:

By the way, my sources tell me that Wonder Woman has also been in operation for some time before Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice begins, and her activities have been just as secretive as Batman’s. Her activities were badass as well... but in a very different, and unexpected, way.

Does this mean we’ll see more of Diana Prince, and less of Wonder Woman the superhero celebrity and ambassador?

Photo: Warner Bros

11 comments
Christopher Bennett
1. ChristopherLBennett
Batman never being photographed is an idea that would've made more sense 20-40 years ago than in this age of ubiquitous phone cameras and security cameras. And really, "trying to avoid attracting attention" and "dressing up as a giant human bat" are two agendas that don't really mesh well.
GarrettC
2. GarrettC
But Ben Affleck is only 41 years old, hardly any older than Christian Bale.

I wonder what it would look like to actually cast an actor in his 50s to play a pentagenarian Batman...

I mean, George Clooney IS available...
GarrettC
3. Cybersnark
@2.

Come to that, so is Kevin Conroy.
Shaka Jamal
4. FaceofYo!
Uhmmm...how is an older Batman to a young Superman play for the upcoming Justice Leauge movie? I'm not sure if it works as Grandpa Batman mentoring Superman, Wonder Woman and Co... JS
Christopher Bennett
5. ChristopherLBennett
@4: It looks like they're basically just trying to copy Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns. Which is a pretty poor approach if you want to launch a new Batman franchise, since it was a conjectural, out-of-continuity tale about the end of Batman's career, as well as an over-the-top satire of superhero comics up to that point. Some of the most unfortunate trends in comics in the past few decades have resulted from creators seeing TDKR and Watchmen as templates for how routine comics stories should be told rather than as the extreme deconstructions that they were.
GarrettC
6. GarrettC
@3

/takes off sunglasses.

/blinks.

Good God, you're right.
Matthew Glover
7. themightysven
I'm probably giving them too much credit, but I'm hoping that they've decided to utilize DC's vast number of alternative universes as the basis for their movie verse. So Nolan/Bale Batman is in the universe next door to Affleck Batman which is across the way from the universe where Reeves is Superman, and no one really talks about the universe where Deadpool is the Green Lantern.

This would allow them to make a Justice League movie, then a Wonder Woman movie without it being all prequel. In Justice League 'verse Wondy is secretive, but in Wondy 'verse she is the celebrity/ambassador/superhero that is the main impetus for most of her rogue's gallery to turn to crime (I'm looking at you Cheetahs 1-n)
Also, in a perfect world, it allows Crisis on Infinite Earths storyline down the way, where Clooney Batman, Keaton Batman, and West Batman have to work together with Welling and Cain and O'neal Supermen, etc
Christopher Bennett
8. ChristopherLBennett
@7: I think Keaton, Kilmer, and Clooney were all supposed to be the same Batman. They had the same Alfred and Commissioner Gordon, at least. Although I guess the different Harveys Dent might suggest otherwise.
Matthew Glover
9. themightysven
@8 When Freeze attacked the Arkham Possession storage you could see that both Joker and Two-Face were inmates, Making Clooney a different Batman than either. And the two Harvey Dents makes Kilmer a different Batman.

(assuming the multiple universes hold true)
Christopher Bennett
10. ChristopherLBennett
@9: We're talking about comics characters, so I don't think a seemingly dead character being alive later on is proof of alternate realities. Heck, in the canonical comics, the Joker has apparently died and come back to life multiple times. And Burton's Catwoman fell to her death and came back to life -- that was her actual origin story -- so clearly the films are in a universe where that's possible.
Aaron Helwig
11. Aaronjh1019
30 years of the guy running around town in a costume helping the citizens of Gotham, leaving knocked out thugs and or criminally insane villains for the police, but no one ever noticed him or questioned how all these people came to be left there for the police, no one screaming hey the guy in the weird outfit with all the nifty gadgets saved or wrongfully left me there to be arrested, no lawyers getting their clients off the hook because some vigelanty beat their clients up and just left them there to be picked up.

Yup no trace of a batman at all, complete urban legend, nothing to see here folks. We're just going to have this bat signal in our teaser trailer for no reason as there is no real batman out there helping us.... Oi you had one job to do DC, one job and you can't even do that right....

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