Tue
Jan 17 2012 11:00am
Once Upon a Time Vs. Grimm Ep 8: New Sheriffs and Old Grudges

Our favorite shows in the Battle of the Network Fairy Tale Shows are on Episode Eight, and this week finds both shows firmly in their strides, each of them dealing with shifts in power. On Once Upon a Time, Emma runs for Sheriff of Storybrooke much to Regina’s chagrin. On Grimm, an ogre out for vengeance brings Nick closer to fully owning his role as a Grimm, but not before he takes a huge beating that knocks him down a peg. And Rumpelstiltskin’s quest for power? Well, that’s something else all together....

Once Upon a Time, Ep. 8: “Desperate Souls”

Storybrooke reels in the wake of Sheriff Graham’s death, and Emma (Jennifer Morrison) decides to leave being deputy behind and take on the burden of Graham’s job.That is, until Regina (Lana Parilla) fires her and tries to declare Sidney Glass (Giancarlo Esposito) sheriff. With Mr. Gold’s (Robert Carlyle) help, Emma forces an election in accordance with the Storybrooke charter. She becomes Sheriff of Storybrooke, teaching Henry (Jared S. Gilmore) that good can win. But at what cost? Meanwhile, we learn about Rumpelstiltskin’s past, and how he came into his power.

Lost Reference Tally: 4 (another appearance by MacCutcheon’s whisky)

Script (2): Jane Espenson has written a tight, focused script that manages to paint a picture of Storybrooke as a town going through change even as it focuses on Emma and Mr. Gold’s work toward securing Emma the Sheriff position. That, to me, was the best part about the way this story was told. An election allowed us to get to know Storybrooke as a community and as a citizenry in small moments like Mary Margaret and David hanging up posters for opposing candidates, a debate held in a tiny town hall and presided over by the town’s psychiatrist, and the fact that even in a place where dirty politics still exists, it still happens in a small-town way. Another strength of the episode was its exploration of how parents can be heroes to their children. We see an obvious example in Emma, who successfully shows Henry that the good guys can win. But then we also get, in Rumpelstiltskin’s backstory, an example of what not to do as he goes to extreme lengths, lengths of which his son cannot approve, to protect his son from the threat of war. Seeing Emma juxtaposed with Rumpelstiltskin as a parent rather than Regina was an intriguing exercise, and I’d be curious to see if Emma becomes more similar to him the deeper into Storybrooke she goes. She still owes Rumpelstiltskin a favor, after all. Will she pay any price to protect her son as he did? Or will she place more value on teaching Henry morality and ethics in a way that Rumpelstiltskin never taught his son, even if it means something happens to her in the attempt? “Desperate Souls” raised some very interesting questions.

Performances (2): I was so happy to finally get range from Robert Carlyle. The lack of range with Rumpelstiltskin wasn’t his fault, but he was boxed into a one-note “mysterious villain” mode by the stories. In this episode, we get a vulnerable Rumpelstiltskin, and Carlyle makes us completely believe that the “Town Coward” could become the same man who is corrupted by power at the end of the episode. Everyone in the cast brought their “A” game to this episode, particularly Lana Parilla, who continues to ground Regina in humanity even as her desire for power and control bring her closer to her “real” Evil Queen self. Jared S. Gilmore was also a standout this week as Henry was, for the first time, hopeless. Gilmore played his scenes this week with a sensitivity and fearlessness that many actors twice his age can’t muster. And Mary Margaret’s flustered reaction to talking about David’s wife? Priceless. Ginnifer Goodwin soars in this part.

Production (2): As always. :) Particularly as we got to see more of Storybrooke, and we got to see the small-town feel echoed through several locations, like the town hall, the diner, the area where Mary Margaret and David hung posters, etc. I can’t get over how cute Mary Margaret and David’s wardrobe was, either. And, of course, Rumpelstiltskin changing from his normal, mild-mannered self to the darker version we’ve gotten to know was done beautifully and subtly.

Representation (2): Once again, this is one of the most gender balanced shows on television. Particularly, it seems, when Espenson is writing it. Since her two episodes have been so well-balanced in terms of story, both the male and female characters have their individual goals and motivations, and a lot to do, and no one feels like a token. And it’s always wonderful to see more Giancarlo Esposito as Sydney Glass.

Audience Engagement (1.5): The episode was great, but required lots of past knowledge of relationships/mythology to keep up with what was going on. I was watching with a friend who’d never watched the show before, and he was like “huh?” and stopped watching halfway through. However, it did engage him just enough to make him start watching the show from the beginning on the ABC website, and now he’s a huge fan! So, there you go.

TOTAL SCORE FOR Once Upon a Time: 9.5 (out of 10)

 

Grimm, Ep 8: “Game Ogre”

A case from Hank’s (Russell Hornsby) past returns to Portland in the form of an ogre who’s escaped from prison and is going around killing anyone that had anything to do with putting him away. And he has his sights set on Hank. Nick (David Giuntoli) delves into Aunt Marie’s files and discovers how to deal with the creature, but not before being beaten within an inch of his life. Incapacitated, he directs Monroe (Silas Weir Mitchell) to Marie’s trailer and instructs him how to kill the ogre.

Script (1.5): Cameron Litvack and Thania St. John have delivered an episode that is as edge-of-your-seat as they come. The simpleness of the plot (ogre comes to town for revenge) allowed for the complexities to arise between characters, which is where all the interesting stuff happens anyway. We see yet another side of Hank relating to his past on the force. We see Hank and Captain Renard have tension. We see Monroe in what is actually his natural state, fixing watches, and how that translates to his geekiness over the intricacy of Grimm weaponry. We see a different dynamic between Nick and Juliette. All of this made for a wonderful, enjoyable episode. So, why the 1.5?

This should’ve been the episode where Nick took his first step toward owning being a Grimm. Everything in the episode was pointing in that direction. A situation was set up in which he could save his partner. The creature world got too close to him and invaded his home. He easily went to Aunt Marie’s books and looked through it more confidently than ever before, as if it were finally becoming a part of him.

And then he has Monroe kill the ogre.

That actually upset me while I watched it. And yes, I know Nick was in the hospital. But that should have been Nick’s moment. The show is called Grimm, not Blutbad. It was Nick’s moment, and the writers made him miss it. And I feel like they’re setting something up in relation to Renard, but that shouldn’t come at the expense of Nick’s heroism. Nick should never be this passive in relation to the crime being solved. That just didn’t sit well with me.

Also, why were NIck and Monroe so jumpy when Nick and Hank came to Monroe for help? Hank obviously knows they know each other...why wouldn’t they be friends? Why wouldn’t Nick know where the coffee is, and why the big production. The vibe of that scene didn’t make any sense.

“Game Ogre,” was a great episode out of which Nick was gypped.

Performances (2): The cast has never been better. I don’t know the order in which these episodes were shot, but this one clearly came at a time when the cast had time to gel. Giuntoli has never been more comfortable in Nick’s shoes, and Hornsby brought an amazing, quiet fury to Hank this week. We actually got to see some wonderful work from Bitsie Tulloch as Juliette, too, and she conveyed concern for Nick without seeming weak or incompetent in the process. She was a fully lived-in woman, and I loved seeing that. And, at long last, there was finally chemistry between Nick and Juliette! That’s something you’ve seen me complain about here before, but in this episode their interactions were believable and sweet, and at times heartbreaking. For the first time, they felt like an actual couple. Sasha Roiz, as always, did so much with so little as Captain Renard. Whether comforting Juliette at the hospital, earnestly trying to protect Hank, or examining bullets that may have something to do with his hidden agenda, there is always both a truth in his care for and kindness to others and an undercurrent of something going horribly wrong at any moment, The way Roiz consistently balances those two things lends his portrayal of Renard a vibrancy and electricity that has made the character a fan-favorite and makes him so compelling to watch. And speaking of fan-favorites, Silas Weir Mitchell also did some of his best work yet, bringing into his already complex portrayal of Monroe a geekiness about Grimm weaponry, which I loved.

Production (2): Aunt Marie’s trailer is just one of the best-designed locations ever, and I love every opportunity we have to explore it. Ditto the Grimm weapon props. The ogre prosthetics were great, and the burns he suffered after Juliette splashed him with boiling water were appropriately intense and disgusting. Nick’s bruise make-up worked really well, too.

Representation (2): JULIETTE ACTUALLY DID SOMETHING! And it was something that was brave and realistic (ie: she didn’t suddenly become this ass-kicking acrobat who could inexplicably take down a guy three times her size). Yes. More of this, please. Also, this was the first time that the primary victims or people that needed protecting in this case were mostly men.

I’ve been loving that Hank has become so complex over the course of the show’s run so far. Every time we think we know something about him, another case comes along that reveals something else. And even as his actions tread into unethical territory, you know it’s always for a good reason. I’m waiting for the same level of complexity to be bestowed on Sargent Wu. They’d better do that, soon!

Audience Engagement (2): “Game Ogre” was definitely a self-contained episode that anyone just sitting around flipping channels could’ve stopped to enjoy. Also, I have to hand it to Bitsie Tulloch for sometimes taking on sole Grimm cheerleading duties on Twitter as the rest of the cast slacks off! Seriously, she can always be relied upon to do live-tweets during episodes, post photos, and interact with the fans in a way that the other cast members don’t do. I appreciate that, as do my fellow Grimmsters!

 

TOTAL SCORE FOR Grimm: 9.5 (out of 10)

 

Cumulative Scores So Far:

Once Upon a Time: 62.5

Grimm: 61.5

And that’s all she wrote from the land of fairy tales this week. You’ve probably already watched last night’s Once Upon a Time, which airs Sundays at 8PM ET on ABC (and if you haven’t you can catch the episodes on the ABC website), and you can tune into Grimm, which airs Friday nights at 9PM ET on NBC.


Teresa Jusino wants to steal Aunt Marie’s trailer and take a road trip with it. She can be heard on the popular Doctor Who podcast, 2 Minute Time Lord, participating in a roundtable on Series 6.1. Her “feminist brown person” take on pop culture has been featured on websites like ChinaShopMag.com, PinkRaygun.com, Newsarama, and PopMatters.com. Her fiction has appeared in the sci-fi literary magazine, Crossed Genres; she is the editor of Beginning of Line, the Caprica fan fiction site; and her essay “Why Joss is More Important Than His ‘Verse” is included in Whedonistas: A Celebration of the Worlds of Joss Whedon By the Women Who Love Them, which is on sale now wherever books are sold! 2012 will see Teresa’s work in an upcoming non-fiction sci-fi anthology. Get Twitterpated with Teresa, “like” her on Facebook, or visit her at The Teresa Jusino Experience.

12 comments
wayfaringpanda
1. wayfaringpanda
I've been really enjoying these comparisons, almost as much as I enjoy watching the shows. But I'm not sure why you're knocking them if they rely on the viewer to have a bit of backstory to understand. Having a strong overarching story to follow that requires you to have watched previous episodes to get full enjoyment doesn't seem like it should be a bad thing to me. I enjoy those types of shows much more than shows where you can jump in at any point in time, because then it feels so much less about the characters and more about satisfying those with short attention spans.

Then again, I am pretty much incapable of watching a show that I haven't seen from the very beginning, so I almost never have to deal with watching an episode and not knowing the backstory.
Teresa Jusino
2. TeresaJusino
wayfaringpanda @1 - First, thank you for your compliment! :) I'm glad you're enjoying this series of reviews!

As for the "Audience Engagement" category - as I said in my first post, this is the most nebulous of all the categories, as I'm responding to things like how people might be engaged by the episode as well as how the show engages with the audience through social media, etc. That said, when I give an episode a lower score for not being a successful standalone, it's because I believe that there's a balance that can be struck - and the best shows do - in catering to their already established audience and appealing to the casual viewer. Even shows like CSI or Law and Order, while they are procedurals and each have their "case of the week", they also have their overarching storylines having to do with character relationships and how they change over time.

Once Upon a Time, even though it's a show that has a lot of mythology to work with, is generally pretty effective about making each episode stand on its own, and if there's information you need to know from previous episodes, they let the audience know without beating them over the head. I gave it a lower score this week, because this, to me, didn't feel like one of those episodes. But it's not like I gave it a "1" or a ".5" either. It was just slightly less effective on this front for me.

Meanwhile, whereas I gave Grimm a higher score on this front, the fact that it was such an effective standalone lost it points on the Script front, because it basically ignored Nick's progress up until now, essentially sacrificing the world the show has built for a cheap thrill and more time with a fan-favorite character. What seemed like a logical progression just didn't happen.
Margot Virzana
3. LuvURphleb
Enjoying this analysis.
Love Once upon a time and am so curious to see where its going. And i admit i do not watch grimm nor read that part always look forward to the post. Am very curious to see how you rate the hanzel and gretyl episode
Marc Rowen
4. greatfolded
Agree with TeresaJusino @2 for audience engagement, at this point of the series. (BTW, is series the plural of series?) They're early days enough that they should be able to exist somewhat on their own. Much less of a concern towards the end of a series, IMO. That said, Once Upon a Time is going to be at an inherent disadvantage in that regard due to switching between worlds and the character arcs that are evolving in both worlds.

At the end of the day, if the episode is good enough on its own to induce a new viewer to catch up from the beginning, I wouldn't deduct anything. But that might be due to the fact that I enjoyed Desparate Souls a lot more than Game Ogre, and in general have been looking more forward to Once Upon a Time than Grimm. I still like both, but my preference has switched from the first few weeks.

Once Upon a Time has a bigger meta-arc to its story than Grimm, which is why it can dole more out each week on that front. It brings us back to the inherent disadvantage to engage the audience standalone, but probably rewards the loyal viewer more in general. Grimm's meta-arc is moving too slowly for me, and I'm losing a little patience.
wayfaringpanda
5. Lsana
I was somewhat surprised you didn't have anything to say about the girl being drafted into the army at the beginning of the OUAT episode. An anachronism, proof that the Enchanted Forest is more egalitarian than our world, or fear that she was actually being "drafted" for something else?
Teresa Jusino
6. TeresaJusino
Lsana @5 - You know, I totally forgot to include mention of that, but I DID notice it when I watched it. :)

I kind of got the feeling she was being "drafted" for something else. It was the way he said, "You'll ride with me" as if she were his consort.

*shudder*
wayfaringpanda
7. AlBrown
Like others above, I enjoy this weekly analysis, although, Teresa, if you were a teacher, it seems you would be handing out lots of A's! ;-)
Regarding the scene in Grimm where the Nick and Hank were at Monroe's and Nick didn't want Monroe to reveal their friendship: I think that worked well. Cops are supposed to maintain a distance from the rest of society, and for Nick to reveal a friendship with Monroe, so soon after he had been involved with a couple of crimes (most notably, the pig guy), would have been greeted with suspicion by Hank. Although it certainly seems that, at some point, Hank is going to get wise to what is going on, he is too smart a cop to miss the clues all around him!
And I really enjoyed the moral ambiguity of Emma's rise to sheriff, when at the very end, Mr. Gold revealed that he had been manipulating her even when she thought she was standing up to him. That sent a shiver up my spine!
Only one point separates the scores, which sounds about right to me--I can't decide which of these excellent shows that I like best.
Teresa Jusino
8. TeresaJusino
AlBrown @7 - Well, since I'm sort of "grading" the shows by .5 increments, a 1.5 would be a B in that "class." And me giving out a lot of A's and B's can't be helped, as I'm working with two very good students! It's like grading the valedictorian and the salutatorian. :)

And I agree re: a point separating them. Honestly, when I started this, I was expecting to looooove Grimm (it's more the kind of show I'd be into) and not like Once Upon a Time so much. But I LOVE OUaT AND Grimm for entirely different reasons. I'm glad that Once surprised me! :) But you'll see that what happens with these two is that excelling in one area sometimes takes away from another area, as is the case with Grimm and Script/Audience Engagement.

As for the Monroe scene, you make a good point. And it was funny how Monroe sort of overreacted. I guess I was more bothered by Nick making such a production. He really should be better at being nonchalant. :)
wayfaringpanda
9. RQ
You hit the nail on the head about Grimm missing the mark on whose story it is. You're right that it's called "Grimm," not "Blutbad," but the writers are letting Nick be far too passive and letting Monroe steal the show. It's not a good thing when a supporting character is more interesting (apparently to the writers, at least) than the hero. Letting a supporting character, no matter how lovable, get the Big Moment is a plotting no-no. The writers have done this way too much. The fact that Nick is a Grimm has really made very little difference so far.

Also, did the creatures suddenly stop being able to recognize Nick as a Grimm? It seems that in the last few episodes, they've been oblivious.

But I still like the show as much as anything on TV. I actually WATCH it when I DVR it.
wayfaringpanda
10. cdthomas
To wonder about the Buffyness of the concept -- what do the creatures see, when they see a Grimm? Is it like teen girl + demon, as with the First Slayer, or just a guy who gets hurt a lot?

What does he have other than the ability to recognize foes? If he has nothing more than a great mobile Bat Cave, won't that mean he'll get real dead, real soon?
Eloise Mason
11. ElliottMason
I also wonder how the monsters who can spot him, do so -- it might be smell (I vaguely remember Monroe mentioning something about him smelling like a Grimm early on), in which case, maybe different monsters smell differently well?

Also, early on, they'd do something emotional and 'lose it' sufficiently that he could 'make' them, and then his face would be all ZOMG A MONSTRRRR!, which is kind of a giveaway. In the recent cases where they couldn't tell, he kept his face more straight (or his reaction was adequately explained by stuff other people could see too).

I'm actually not upset about Monroe getting the takedown on the ogre, for three reasons:

a. Monroe's getting some interesting character development out of it, having to take a more 'active' role, and 'choose sides' a little; I get the impression that he may have killed before, but never like THAT, if you know what I mean, and he is going to have as much to work through from this ep as Juliette did. I really have no problem with Monroe and Hank becoming the 'main' characters of this show, despite the title.

b. Renard is clearly up to something (but what? Delicious anticipation), and if Nick HADN'T been out of the hospital would have instantly thought "Oh, the Grimm killed the ogre," whether he'd have been in favor of that or not. This throws a wild card into his calculations and makes him wonder (if only for a little while -- is The Thing that happens in the following ep to Monroe Renard's doing?) if he's actually got everything as under control as he wanted.

c. The slow pace is a pro, to me. I'm really, really sick of fiction that takes a character who has Something Extra and then suddenly they also become, unrelatedly, a massive badass who is totally at peace with their Extra-ness and VOOM, hitting the ground running in one novel or four episodes. He is coming into his power, but he's also *human*, and interacting regularly with baddies who can literally pound him into library paste. He needs to take that damage, and learn to deal with it (or learn to avoid it), regularly in this newbie phase to fully own his abilities. If they went the copout and had him instantly be zero-to-sixty on asskicking things way meaner than him, I'd feel cheated.
Teresa Jusino
12. TeresaJusino
ElliotMason @11 - regarding your point at C: I totally agree with you. But the thing is, we can't see Nick's growing in that way if he isn't forced to take chances. In this case I feel like we got Monroe character development at the expense of Nick character development, and this being Nick's story, his is always more important. Having Monroe and everyone else being a well-developed character is great, but it should never come at the expense of Nick.

And I disagree that Nick going after the ogre himself would've been "zero to sixty." That would've been a natural progression. I'm not saying he had to magically heal and spring into action. But his partner is in danger from someone who beat him to a bloody pulp, and he has the weapon and the know-how to do something about it. Him dragging himself there despite his pain would've been amazing to watch, and would've been true to his already-forming sense of Grimm duty. Monroe doing it just cheapened that for me.

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