Dec 6 2011 9:40am

Benicio Will Not Boldly Go But Khan Seems Definite (UPDATED)

Previously on Star Trek: Casting Rumors: Benicio Del Toro was in talks with J.J. Abrams and company to appear in the next Star Trek film, but it turns out now that he won’t beam up after all. Vulture is reporting the money couldn’t be sorted out and as such, no Benicio.

UPDATED: However, Vulture and Latino Review are also reporting from “a highly placed source” that Khan is indeed the villain. Just not played by Benicio.

Now that Star Trek 2: Wrath of TBD is set for a 2013 release date, we’re putting all the inertial dampers on full strength for another bumpy ride of casting/character rumors. (Although we probably should have had them on to begin with.)

With Benicio out, who should play Khan? We nominate Owen Wilson.

Joseph Kingsmill
1. JFKingsmill16
Honestly, I would be very happy with no name actors playing the bad guys. How about the Gorn?

Also... No one has evern been able to satifactory explain how there is no money in the 23rd century.
2. Freelancer
Owen Wilson, the biggest non-actor of our time? Please don't damage the Trek brand with him...

JFKingsmill16 @1,


If I understand correctly, the narrative is that money is a tool of corruption, and since the worlds of the Federation are required to live to a "higher" standard, with the best things in life available freely to all, there is no point to having an instrument of exchange. Once you have replicators, who needs to work? Everyone can afford everything, if all that is required is to ask for it. At that point, any form of money would be a vulgar method of "keeping score", that no longer has value.
3. rogerothornhill
(1) There have already been great comments on this site (from Ryan? Am I remembering that right?) about making a Trek without a villain, but when everybody was talking about del Toro playing Khan, I was thinking the perfect way to go in the second movie was not Khan but Harry Mudd--a really *sexy* Mudd. That character is ripe for rebooting, but any Khan would obviously have to be compared to Montalban.

(2) By the 24th century, the explanation was that replicator technology (including matter recycling) had killed market value, although I suppose there could be a market in obscure replicator recipes. In the 23rd century, of course, there are no replicators. Was there still money in the 22nd century? DS9 suggested that the Bell Riots were the turning point, but World War III came after that, of course, so . . .I don't know.

Yes, I am a Star Trek nerd. And proud of it.
Darth Touma
4. Darth Touma
Gold-Pressed latinum?

Oh.. why Khan? Does the 2nd movie of the re-boot need to parallel the original crew films? We already shattered the canon with the iEnterprise movie.. why go that way?
Evan Langlinais
5. Skwid
Maybe, and I realize I'm talking crazy talk here, if you're casting someone named "Khan Noonien Singh" you should cast someone of, oh, I don't know...SOME kind of Asiatic descent? I mean, Indian would probably be best...if only there were a pool of talented Indian actors out there somewhere...
jon meltzer
6. jmeltzer
Why do Khan again? What a lack of imagination. Bring back someone else from the original series, if one really needs to go that route.
Darth Touma
7. a1ay
Maybe, and I realize I'm talking crazy talk here, if you're casting someone named "Khan Noonien Singh" you should cast someone of, oh, I don't know...SOME kind of Asiatic descent?

Head on over to the NW bit of the subcontinent - Pakistan and Afghanistan - and you'll see people who are blonder than Owen Wilson... or even Ricardo Montalban.
Chris Lough
8. TorChris
@2. Freelancer. Owen Wilson, the biggest non-actor of our time? Please don't damage the Trek brand with him...

Hmmm, I dunno. I can see him as Khan...
Darth Touma
10. Michael S. Schiffer

Of course, there are any number of scarce goods and services on the show that are distributed somehow. (Replicators don't get everyone, or even every Federation world, their own Galaxy class starship. By implication, the wine Picard's family makes, or the food Ben Sisko's dad cooks in his restaurant, isn't indistinguishable from what can be dialed up from a dispenser, even if it's bestowed by some sort of gift economy rather than sold.)

There were at least two great uses of Nog (possibly the only Ferengi who's neither sinister nor ridiculous) in DS9 to skewer the Federation's pretensions: Treachery, Faith, and the Great River (where he uses the classic "chain of trades" plot, also seen in M*A*S*H, to get around the problem of no money), and this exchange in "In the Cards" when Jake Sisko wants to get a Willie Mays baseball card for his dad:
Nog: It's my money, Jake. If you want to bid at this auction, use your own money.

Jake Sisko: I'm Human, I don't have any money.

Nog: It's not my fault that your species decided to abandon currency-based economics in favor of some philosophy of self- enhancement.

Jake: Hey, watch it. There's nothing wrong with our philosophy. We work to better ourselves and the rest of Humanity.

Nog: What does that mean exactly?

Jake: It means... it means we don't need money.

Nog: Well if you don't need money, then you certainly don't need mine.
Darth Touma
11. JustinS
If you are going to use an non-indian actor for Khan, I've always thought David Bowie had the shear presence to pull him off.
Darth Touma
12. Fester Bestertester
Why go through the trouble of doing a re-boot of the series and then just re-tell the same old stories? Seems like a waste of time. Ditch Khan and "boldly go where no one has gone before."
Darth Touma
14. Amythest Moonjade
If your looking for a good actor to play Khan, and you want someone from India, look at the actor that played the lead in the movie "The Warrior" from India. He did not have a lot of lines but he had great screen prescence and handle the action sequences really well....I don't know if he knows English since the movie had subtitles....All I know is that I was spell-bound for the entire movie.....
I agree that a "no name actor" would be better for the part....I would like to see other characters that populated the Trek universe brought to life in a new way....with the change in time lines...the sky is really the limit in how the characters could be developed.
Darth Touma
15. shelleybear
After the "reboot" that was the last movie, I've decided to leave "new trek" to a yonger generation.
So I'm not going to see it.

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