Wed
Jun 16 2010 12:44pm
Starz and BBC join forces to drag Capt. Jack back to Earth

Torchwood series four is a go! Again. Almost. Well, it’s scheduled for 2011, anyway. Details after the jump.

It seems fitting to me that my first post on Tor.com involves the awesomeness that is Torchwood, for I wouldn’t be the SFF geek I am today without it. Back in 2008 one of my nearest and dearest friends sent me a YouTube clip of Spike from Buffy making out and fisticuffing with some hot dude in a blue coat. Cue fangirl-induced heart attack.  Suddenly SFF made sense to me in a non-Whedon/non-X-Files way. 

After seeing that clip I went full on geek, devouring anything and everything SFF that came my way, from books to TV to comics and beyond. Two years later, I have now seen every episode of Doctor Who and Torchwood more times than I can count. In air-date order. I relish my copy of the “Doctor Who Technical Manual” and my Etsy-ified Jack and Ianto Christmas ornament. My second tattoo is “Blaidd Drwg” written in the 2005-2009 series logo font and I’m considering the Torchwood “T” as my third. To put it mildly, I am a fan.

When it was first announced that the third series of Torchwood was only going to be five episodes long I suspected that its time was up. Then RTD killed off Ianto just to irritate me. And then Jack went off to sulk, drink, and flirt with midshipmen in galaxies unknown. Gwen and Rhys went off to have babies in London and everyone forgot that the entire Cardiff sewer system is crawling with man-killing Weevils who are still pissed off about that whole fight club/torture thing.

And then Torchwood was picked up by Fox. At this point I knew the show was doomed. The bar for network sex and violence is extremely low and Fox has an especially atrocious track record for risky SFF shows. Even if the show got past script approval, even if it shot a pilot, even if the pilot was picked up, my gut told me it wouldn’t make it through a full season. Sure enough, on April 21st of this year, four months after Fox announced its consideration, Captain Jack and poor preggo Gwen got the old heave-ho.

Now, I sat through two years of squees and heartbreaks with the back and forth between David Milch and HBO over the fate of Deadwood, only for it to end in tears. So it is with great excitement and a lot of trepidation that I announce that Torchwood is greenlit once more. On June 7th Starz announced that they had picked up the show for a 10 episode arc starting in 2011.

According to RTD, “It’s not a new version, it’s not a reboot...It’s not going to be Lost and take 20 years to find out what’s going on. It’s going to have a most remarkable conclusion after 10 episodes.”  On an even more positive note BBC Worldwide EVP Jane Tranter said, “Capt. Jack’s sexuality is certainly not going to change. Whether it’s man, woman, or alien [or robot fashion designers], Capt. Jack is a gloriously sexually active being.” (Go here and here for RTD interviews and here for the official BBC press release.)

Will RTD and Barrowman have more freedom on paid cable? Yes. Am I disappointed that the Monster of the Week format will be dropped in lieu of serialization? *sigh* Yes. Does the inclusion of the word “conclusion” in the Davies quote send shivers down my spine? Frak yes. Now, most Doctor Who/Torchwood fans know what happens to Captain Jack in the very distant future, but Gwen, Rhys, and baby don’t have such luck. I’m not sure I can handle anymore deaths in Torchwood Three, and I’m not sure I’m willing to accept a Torchwood Five (or, counting Torchwood India, would it be Six?).

There’s still no (official) word on the story arc or any news as to what Jack and Gwen are supposed to do without any of Three’s nifty alien technology, so unless Jackie Boy’s managed to bring to earth a caravan full of bits and bobs, they’re basically baseless, defenseless, and offenseless. Anything could happen, but without some very specific first episode arrangements they can’t get a gorram lot accomplished. Anyway, the long and short of it is, as of June 7th, your Torchwood squees are justified...at least for now.


Alex Brown is an archivist in training, reference librarian by day, writer by night, and all around geek who watches entirely too much TV. She is prone to collecting out-of-print copies of books by Evelyn Waugh, Jane Austen, and Douglas Adams, probably knows far too much about pop culture than is healthy, and thinks her rats Hywel and Odd are the cutest things ever to exist in the whole of eternity. You can follow her on Twitter if you dare...

12 comments
Ian Tregillis
1. ITregillis
Hooray for more Torchwood!

I'm with you. Torchwood on Fox would have been a train wreck. The mere possibility left me feeling profoundly schizophrenic-- do I root for Torchwood to come back even if that means the show must be ruined? Or do I hope it doesn't come back so that it isn't destroyed by Fox?

I don't know much about Starz, but their record with SF shows can't be worse than Fox's.

(Personally, I thought Children of Earth suffered from having 5 pounds of plot in a 10 pound plotbag, but that's just one person's opinion.)
Alex Brown
2. Milo1313
ITregillis @ 1: I totally agree with you about Children. I would've much rather had that in a regular full season than in a 5-part miniseries. The emotional hits would've been much stronger.

Literally the only thing I know about Starz is that they stream on Netflix, so at least I don't have to pay premium or do something sneaky to get my Jack fix.
Drew Shiel
3. gothwalk
I'm delighted that there's to be more Torchwood, but I don't trust RTD when he uses the word "conclusion". The man cannot write a decent ending, be it to an episode, a series, or a show.
Dad of Frederik
4. Dad of Frederik
now I may be odd here since I didn't watch Torchwood before Children of Earth, but I thought that one was mightily brilliant.

Well except for the ending, which, going with Peter Watts here, was crap. OTOH one has to ask oneself how gloriously nihilistic and bleak a show has to be to make you find that ending "happy" and therefore crap.

Well anyway. Hooray for more Captain Jack!
Dad of Frederik
5. a-j
Doesn't Starz do 'Spartacus: Blood and Porn, sorry Sand', the most barking series it's been my pleasure to watch. I think 'Torchwood' is safe with them. ftw, I reckoned 'Children of Earth' and the radio plays to be the best of 'Torchwood'. The rest was so hit and miss and normally miss.
Ruth X
6. RuthX
I'm a bit worried that RTD will bring in new characters we love and kill everyone off. Again. Normally I like one plot vs. Monster-of-the-week but that seemed to work better for Torchwood. RTD especially pissed me off by killing Ianto in such an offhand/pointless fashion (sorry to people who liked COE but it was just a dumb way to go, like if your character is crossing the street and doesn't look both ways but not because he's running to a rescue just because he's being dumb, there were so many better ways I'd have been ok with having him die).

But that said, I really loved the first 2 seasons--good and bad--so I'll give this a shot too. I'm just going to miss Ianto.
Alex Brown
7. Milo1313
Dad of Frederik @ 4 and RuthX @ 6: I think I'm really the odd one out, here, because, while I enjoyed COE, I much prefer series 1 over anything else. Most of my fave eps are set in series 1 ("Day One", "Cyberwoman", "Countrycide", "They Keep Killing Suzie", "Combat", and "Captain Jack Harkness" - which I can never watch without crying), and I just love the tie-in with Who with all the Easter egged "VOTE SAXON" flyers.

Or maybe I'm just still pissed about Ianto. That's highly likely. I mean, yeah, Whedon killed off a ton of characters, but this was worse precisely because it was a pointless and unnecessary death and, while I get why RTD did it, it doesn't make me ok with it.

a-j @ 5: I watched half of the first ep of "Blood and Sand" but couldn't get into it. I was promised smexy sex and got tedious and poorly written never-ending dialogue. I wanted it to be a time suck between True Blood seasons (I tried and eventually dumped Vampire Diaries for the same reasons). Should I give it another go?
Ian Tregillis
8. ITregillis
gothwalk @ 3: Yeah... Endings are not RTD's strong suit. His use of "conclusion" is troubling.

RuthX @ 6, Milo1313 @ 7: The Ianto thing really ticked me off, too. So much of the latter half of the COE story seemed to be desperate vamping to fill 5 installments. In order to achieve that, they resorted to having our normally sensible characters do really idiotic things to advance the plot. The Ianto stuff being exhibit "A". But that's just one viewer's opinion.

Milo1313, good point about Whedon. Though I'm actually kind of bothered by the way he kills off characters, especially female characters-- I don't understand it fully, so I'm probably way out in left field, but every time I think about this, it tweaks my "woman in a refrigerator" reflex.
Dad of Frederik
9. marianMoore
I am still puzzled over the fury over Ianto. Story-wise, there had to be a loss at that point. Jack had to be knocked down a peg. Ianto died in the midst of duty, not crossing the street. He had a fine death; why this anger at his death?

Anyway, glad to hear that the show is coming back. I suspect that RTD would rather conclude the series on his own terms rather than have Captain Jack tamed down.
Dad of Frederik
10. a-j
Milo1313@7 - I cannot, in all honesty or decency, recommend 'Spartacus: Blood & Sand' to anyone. We're four episodes in over here in the UK and I have become weirdly hooked on it, not least because I have no idea what is going to happen in any given episode as the writers seem to be gleefully throwing in whatever seems like a good idea at the time. Furthermore, I find the ultraviolence, ultrasex and portentious dialogue, weirdly enough, rather sweetly naive.
Or maybe it's just me.
Dad of Frederik
11. Tenielle R
You think you're a fan? Ladies and gentlemen, I offer my husband and I as the biggest fans. We named our son Ianto Jack.
Alex Brown
12. Milo1313
Tenielle R @ 11: The surname of one of the characters in one of my novels is Boe, another character is named Jack, another Who, and I plan to name my son (if I ever get around to having one) Ianto. Tie? ;)

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