Thu
Mar 18 2010 2:18pm
Lost Round Table: “Recon”

The sixth and final season of Lost continues and so does Tor.com’s weekly round table discussion with bloggers Theresa DeLucci, Rajan Khanna, and Bridget McGovern. Spoilers (and many Lost-related links) after the fold as I wonder what kind of woman could resist a contrite Sawyer on her doorstep offering a sad sunflower and a six-pack?

Rajan: So, Sawyer. Looking back on the series, I never expected to like him as much as I do now. He’s one of my favorite characters, and far more complex than I anticipated back in Season One. Even disillusioned, get-me-off-this-island, Earth-1 Sawyer is nuanced—he wants off, but he wants to protect his friends. And he's playing both sides against the middle. What I enjoyed about Sawyer’s latest gambit is that he's telling everyone the truth. And it seems to be working to his favor. Because they’re all caught up in their own agendas. We’ve been seeing people end up on either Jacob or Smocke’s side, but Sawyer is on his own side.

Still—more questions—what was in that locked room on the sub? I take it we'll find out soon. What is Widmore really after? Sawyer says it's Locke, but Widmore has only seemed to ever want the island. Maybe he wants to kill Smocke so he can take it?

As for Earth-2 Sawyer (or James Ford, I should say), I loved that he was a cop. I loved that Miles was his partner. The only thing better than Sawyer and Miles together is Hurley and Miles together. I loved the way they played that opening scene with him—so similar to the con we saw him work before, but so different.

And Charlotte? Wow. I didn't recognize her at first. I thought it was a nice little callback, especially with the connection to Miles. But I guess it wasn't meant to be. I hope that's because he's going to end up with Juliet. I hope to hell he doesn't end up with Kate.

But we only have 8 episodes left (insert sad emoticon here) and I wonder where they're going with this Earth-2 timeline. Sawyer meets up with Kate, but when will they have time to work through this? We still have Jin and Sayid left hanging, now Sawyer and Kate, not to mention everyone else. Will there be resolution? I almost feel like at this point this Earth-2 timeline is setting up another show entirely—next season on ABC, Lost 2: Electric Boogaloo. Actually in both Earths, it seems like the time remaining is so short and there's a lot to get through. And next week is a Richard episode, so I expect there won't be an Earth-2 thread.

But, there’s a bright spot—next week is not just a Richard episode, it’s the Richard episode. We get to find out all about him, his background, etc. And hopefully many of the secrets of the island. I can’t wait.

Theresa: I can’t believe there are only eight episodes left. And there’s still so much going on. I'm with you, Raj. Sawyer grew on me over the seasons, too, and I love that for as much as he’s changed as a character, he’s still always looking out for himself. And he’s still terribly lonely inside, no matter which reality he’s in. This is the kind of nuance that’s been missing from Sayid’s path to redemption. And Sawyer’s really, really clever. Although, I think even the dumbest person on the Island could tell that Zoe was way too nosy for a run-of-the-mill castaway. On that note, I'd put my money on leaving by submarine over grounded 747. With almost all of the redshirts dead, how can they even clear a working runway on the Island? In under eight episodes, no less. Is piloting the Ajira flight off the Island the sole reason Lapidus is still alive? I'm actually starting to really feel that there’s too little time left for Lost to reveal more about the underused characters.

But at least Miles is getting some love. I loved, loved, loved Miles as Sawyer’s cop partner. Miles just plain rules. I have no interest in seeing more Kate/Sawyer shipping in any reality though.

I'm still finding Smocke a bit too supernatural for my tastes on this show. He’s veering dangerously close to the angels in Battlestar Galactica, like it doesn’t fit with the overall established logic of Lost. He’s a dead man! He’s a smoke monster! He’s evil incarnate! It just leaves me kind of cold. But I'm willing to push that nitpicky feeling aside and just enjoy the reactions he gets from the other characters. Maybe I’ll feel differently about Smocke when we see Richard’s episode. I'm hoping he’s got some interesting revelations about Smocke and Jacob to share. Even just knowing that the next episode is about Richard made me impatient while I watched “Recon.”

Bridget: I’m also excited for a Richard episode—as much as I liked the whole “Miles and Jim: Snarky Detectives” plot, I can’t get enough of the slowly-unfolding Island mythology and Team Smocke. Spooky Sayid is totally entertaining, though he had to settle for the silver in the Creepy Olympics since Claire really raised the bar with her crazy skull-baby/handholding/knife attack routine. I’m actually fascinated by Smocke’s storyline so far, even when it smacks of the supernatural. First of all, his smackdown of Claire and odd formal apology to Kate was kind of hilarious: “Inappropriate!” Bad Claire! There’s just something inherently funny about a killer Smoke Monster-as-uptight disciplinarian, breaking up catfights and having weird heart-to-hearts on the beach. Terry O’Quinn is so brilliant.

I’ve been racking my brain trying to connect Smocke’s description of his “crazy” mother to some obvious pre-existing mythology, but so far nothing quite works. For now, I’ll just note that Locke also had a pretty wacko mom—Emily Locke is a standout even in Lost’s ever-expanding cavalcade of bad parents (male and female). I wonder if the connection is significant.

I can’t say I was happy to see Charlotte—what’s the point of walking the straight and narrow if your reward is a tarted-up Stoltzface digging through your sock drawer at 3 a.m.?! Poor Faraday, wherever he is. On the other hand, as Raj says, this episode was rife with callbacks and parallels. There were the familiar books on Sawyer’s dresser (Watership Down, A Wrinkle in Time, Walker Percy’s Lancelot), Charlie’s brother Liam at the police station, the mention of Miles’s dad (So Pierre Chang made it off the Island?), and the continual enigma of Anthony Cooper (a.k.a. Locke’s dad). Cooper’s dubious past calls into question the seemingly happy father/son relationship presented in "The Substitute." And now Kate’s resurfaced (slamming into Miles and Ford at the same intersection where Nadia was killed, as a friend pointed out).

As the connections pile up, halfway through the season, what are we to make of these sideways flashes? I’ve read a lot of different opinions about which one constitutes the “real” or “primary” reality (as in, maybe Earth-2 happened first, and somehow everything on the Island represents a deviation from that world). In spite of all the speculation, no one has really come up with a unifying theory yet—which is fine by me, since I’m enjoying the ride. If Lost doesn’t deliver, maybe we can do a Little House re-watch. Michael Landon has all the answers…

A few Lost links of interest:

The weirdest of the bunch... “Mmm, cake.” What does it mean?!?! If the cake is a lie...

Michael Emerson on Jimmy Kimmel's “Secrets of Lost

Lost in Sunday comics form.

5 Ideas for a Lost theme park

101 fabulous Lost T-shirts

And something for your little dog, too!


Theresa DeLucci is a graduate of the 2008 Clarion West Writers Workshop. Her fiction has appeared in Chizine. She’s eagerly awaiting the return of True Blood. Well not so much the whole show, but at least Alexander Skarsgård in a tank top

Rajan Khanna is a graduate of the 2008 Clarion West Writers Workshop and his fiction has appeared in Shimmer Magazine. He lives in Brooklyn with his two cats, Chloe and Muppet.

Bridget McGovern is a lit nerd, a film geek, and a complete pop culture junkie. She enjoys David Bowie, roller coasters, and Steve McQueen in Bullitt more than anyone probably should.

20 comments
Alfvaen
1. Alfvaen
Loony theory--at the end of the show, those who want to leave the island will be instaported into their Earth-2 lives. Which is why we're seeing them now, so we don't have to wade through too many hours of denouement.

I'm not paying enough attention while I watch--I miss the offhand references to parents on Earth-2, and fail to map them to the Earth-1 versions.

As one of the comments on "Never seen lost" said, "The idea of her borrowing a shirt from Sawyer is still bizarre, though. Every long-term fan knows Sawyer doesn’t HAVE any shirts!" I thought Charlotte was a little too rummagy in the drawer to seem completely innocent...but people in Earth-2 don't seem to have nearly as many hidden agendas as the Earth-1 equivalents, somehow, so it may just be bad acting.

Who else was expecting Sawyer's blind date to somehow be Juliet? Though, of course, she's unlikely to work at a museum...
R O T
2. rogerothornhill
"Tarted-up Stoltzface" :) Although you say it like it's a bad thing. Okay, in this case it is.
Alfvaen
3. Noirkat
How about this: Smocke is really Aaron all grown up, hence the crazy mother is ... Claire!
Richard Fife
4. R.Fife
@3 that blew my mind. And here I was going to suggest that Smocke was going to need a "real" body when he got of the Island, and was going to take Aaron's.

Anywho, to Locke-2's dad, he might have just been prettying up the past, like any good historian should (oh, wait, Linus was the historian, meh).

On Sawyer, I actually found myself starting love him in season 4 after he had 3 years of getting over himself in Dharmaville. Responsible, less-emo Sawyer, yes please. Sayid, conversely, has only just gotten more emo and is annoying to me. That goes for both earths.

I have a sad, sad feeling that Widmore is going to end up being an anti-hero. Actually doing the right then, just being far too Machiavellian about it. After all, I get the impression he actually did get to meet Jacob, unlike Ben. Also note that Widmore was not as much of a douche in his younger flashbacks, just from the adult-Ben Flashbacks on. Perhaps he got a bit bitter after Eloise left the Island with Faraday.

And finally, Smocke. The juxtaposition of killer-evil-incarnate to caring leader is jarring, but it also makes sense. Perhaps the philosophical difference between Jacob and Smocke was along the lines of whether to guide humans or rule them outright, and both were playing a "my way or the highway" game of which Jacob had the upper hand.
Jonah Feldman
5. relogical
You can't recall any mythology or story with an evil monster living on an island who had a crazy mother despite discussing The Tempest in last week's roundtable? Good ol' Caliban didn't come to mind? I guess his mother wasn't directly stated to be crazy, but she was an evil witch on an island who raised a crazy child. Calling her crazy isn't much of a stretch. The analogue sounds even better when you consider Jacob as the Prospero figure who restrains the Monster, and meanwhile he lures people to his island for his own sinister purposes. The whole show could be seen as The Tempest gone off the rails.
Joanne Center
6. thegloop
I wouldn't put it past ABC to just make a buddy cop show spinoff of Lost.
Alfvaen
7. Lily of the Valley
@6

I'd watch it. :) Sawyer and Miles were so much fun to watch in this ep.
Theresa DeLucci
8. theresa_delucci
If we're still looking into the Jacob/Esau biblical connection, their mom was Rebekah, who had visions and dispensed prophecies. That sounds kinda crazy to me. Maybe something more will come of this next week. I'm just excited by the possibility of seeing Titus Welliver guest again!

Nthing the request for a Sawyer/Miles cop show with Hurley as the rich businessman who accidentally runs into trouble with a Columbian drug ring. Out of all the police procedurals on TV, it's be the one I'd actually watch.
Alfvaen
9. asotir
Remember that according to the official word at ABC (and on the 'enhanced' episode repeats) Earth2 is 'not a flash-back or a flash-forward but a 'flash-sideways' that only illustrates what might have happened had Oceanic 815 not crashed.' In other words, it's a total time waster (and I would think that compressing 7 seasons into 6 would have given them enough story material to put all of this season on the island without making up more confusing stuff) other than to shed light on the characters. But even so, it's nonsense: did Ben Linus and his dad only leave the Island after Oceanic crashed? Sawyer was a cop all this time? Seriously? And Miles was his partner? On 'Earth1' too (remember, everything that happened before Oceanic landed at LAX is supposed to be 'true' on Earth1 as well)?

I haven't followed the series all the way, but does anybody who has remember Miles saying he was a cop? Or Sawyer?

Locke2 said that he had 'a mother like anybody else,' and she was crazy -- that was 'before I looked like this' he says, so it's the Man In Black's mother he's talking about (unless indeed the MiB is only another avatar of this immortal creature).

What's in the locked room in the sub? Who else but Aaron? Aaron has to return to the island, and Jacob was trying to guide someone back in the Lighthouse scene, and it could only be Aaron, who by my reckoning is one of the surviving 6 Candidates (I'm thinking, 'the Oceanic 6' must also be the six candidates, though Locke was one of the O-6, and he can't be a candidate now, so there's got to be one more; could be Jin given Ilana's confusion about the Kwon she's supposed to watch over).

Aaron is a major character even though he's only a 3-year old, since in the recap episode that preceded LAX Pt 1, Aaron got his own title card intro and everything. Plus, now the Smoke Monster/Man in Black has made an explicit parallel between Aaron and himself...

I also loved Sawyer just making deals then fulfilling them and subverting them with the same words. He told Widmore 'I'll tell the old guy everything is clear' and indeed when he met Locke2 he told him 'I told him I'd tell you everything is clear,' pretty sneaky.

I was a bit surprised when I saw the enhanced 'Dr Linus' episode that there's an easy way off the Island and Linus knows it -- just 'portal' your way to Tunisia from one of the bases.

My big speculation is that maybe the Island exists at a place where our universe has a weakened barrier to an anti-universe, and that Man in Black/Smoke Monster is a 'person' from the anti-universe. It kind of fits in with Faraday and the theories on time travel, and doesn't need recourse to Egyptian mythology or any other gods and magic. And thus the energy source buried under the Island is the source of immortality, 'portaling' (just slip through some sort of wormhole here into another spot on Earth), and maybe some of the other stuff.

Could then the anthropomorphism of the Island be a sort of mini-Gaia theory?
Alfvaen
10. CutTheChord
I think it's very obvious that the characters who are WITH this new Locke (who reminds me of Randall Flagg from "The Stand" - which Lost creators said was a HUGE influence on the show) have sideways stories that are NOT resolved in ONE episode. Whereas, Jack, real Locke, Linus, and soon Hurley, etc, who are with Jacob, have sideways stories where their deepest personal needs and desires are fulfilled and resolved in one ep. This is important to what is going on in the show. Jack's relationship with his father was resolved through his relationship with his own son, Dogan's son was alive, Locke is married and alive, Ben resolves his guilt over letting his daughter die by giving her a future in his sideways story. The only characters who are not completing their spiritual journeys are the ones with Locke, who keep bumping into other characters with Locke in the sideways reality and their episodes end on cliffhangers instead of resolution.

Oh, and I think it's Desmond in that locked room. Since he's a candidate, he would unwillingly be giving Charles W. a GPS of sorts to the island just by being on the sub.
Theresa DeLucci
11. theresa_delucci
@asotir
I don't think Earth-2's reality is any less real than the reality on Earth-1 and thus not a waste of time. The producers decided when they wanted the show to end, so I think the plotting is very deliberate. I think the people on Earth-1 will be offered a final choice between realities for themselves.

Ben's always know how to get off the Island, but it's not the only way, since the Others used to travel off of it at will by submarine. I think if you have the right navigational coordinates, it's slower, but possible.

Interesting theory about Aaron being in the locked room. He is important to the story. But I really wish it was Desmond because, goddamn, I miss him.

Miles and Sawyer were never cops. They were both in fact con men, to varying degrees. (Which I just realized makes them both being cops and partners even more unlikely but a cool twist.)
Rajan Khanna
12. rajanyk
I don't think the Earth-2 timeline is as much about the plane not crashing as much as it is if Jacob didn't interfere with their lives. Which makes more sense. If Jacob didn't give Sawyer that pen to make him write the letter, maybe his obsession takes a different turn. If Jacob didn't influence Ben, then he leaves the island with his dad. Nadia doesn't die. Etc.

Of course this doesn't necessarily hold up. Earth-2 Locke is friends with his dad and we only saw Jacob touch him after he was pushed out of the window.

But maybe Jacob influenced more than we've seen?

I think that the Earth-2 timeline will still ultimately be significant.
Pablo Defendini
13. pablodefendini
I was under the impression that the point of divergence from Earth-1 to Earth-2 was the detonation of Jughead, the hydrogen bomb in 1977. If so, then it makes perfect sense for some characters to have taken radically different paths on the new, sideways reality, while others essentially track similarly to their Earth-1 counterparts.

And yeah, a Sawyer/Miles buddy-cop show would be EPIC.
Bridget McGovern
14. BMcGovern
@relogical
Here's the thing--I've read a bunch of theories over the years relating to The Tempest (and/or its sci-fi update, Forbidden Planet) and while I totally agree that the show's writers have drawn many, many connections to the play, I just don't think the Tempest connection is the key to the Island mythos. It just doesn't quite fit for me, although it does help to make the show such a rich, multi-layered affair that it's like crack to my English major's brain, in the same way that recurring references to L. Frank Baum and Lewis Carroll, The Odyssey, Heart of Darkness, and Lost Horizon do (among many other works). So I'm not buying the Caliban/Prospero explanation of Jacob and the Smoke Monster--it feels too thin to me. I'm really hoping for some grand, epic mythology here (though I may just be setting myself up for disappointment).
Rajan Khanna
15. rajanyk
@13 - My problem with that explanation, Pablo, is that the island should have been destroyed then in 1977. With Benjamin Linus on it. With Ethan Godspeed on it. With Pierre Chang on it. Yes, some people were evacuated, but Ben and Ethan and Pierre remained behind. Yet we know that they are all alive and well on Earth-2 (although Chang's existence is only inferred).
Alfvaen
16. Highlandr
@rajanyk
Interference from Jacob is a very good theory. One note on Locke - Richard visited him twice, once when he was born, and once when he was a child (when he picked the knife instead of the compass). It is possible Jacob's tough was merely to help him get to the island, even though he was already set on the path from Richard's earlier interference (If so, why richard? Why not Jacob?).
Rajan Khanna
17. rajanyk
@16 - I'm pretty sure it was Richard because Smocke manipulated both Richard and Locke into thinking that Locke would become the leader of the Others through that time-jumping episode. Richard found out about Locke being "special" from future-Locke and the compass was introduced by Smocke as a way to link up these different meetings.
Theresa DeLucci
18. theresa_delucci
@Raj and Pablo - Yeah, I don't think the divergence point in history was Jughead, I just think Jughead's explosion was the catalyst that created the alternate universe because all of the Dharma folk would be dead if the bomb destroyed the Island.

Why was Locke specifically needed by the Man in Black in the first place? Was he just an easy mark, just wanting so much to believe that he was destined for greatness?

I really wonder how the last 8 episodes will break down, character-wise. Aside from Richard, we still have to see Jin and Sun, Hurley, and have at least one more Locke, Kate, and Jack episode. The very last episode, which is two hours long and on a Sunday will probably be one of those ensemble deals, like the season one finale. (I'm just guessing this stuff here, I don't consider knowing who an episode's focus is a spoiler, so long as it's not a character that is currently dead.) I am really starting to get worried that OMG no more Lost ever! But the number one question I want answered this season is how do the flash-sideways relate to the present.
Richard Fife
19. R.Fife
Just a note on Nuclear weapons: Jughead, especially with the actually rather small amount of plutonium that was in it, would have only created a crater as deep as it was. Ever seen the pictures of the collapsed sections of desert where they did underground tests in the desert? So completely obliterating the Island, or even radiation killing everyone, might be a bit of a crap shoot at best.

Oh, also, I am firmly of the opinion that the writer's of Lost have no clue about explosives in general. The C4 bomb on the freighter could have been easily disarmed by either pulling out the detonation heads from the C4 or just cutting wires like a madman after the battery was frozen (especially once the light was red and the characters knew the bomb was trying to explode and could not). So, perhaps the writer's are thinking the Island just became useless to Dharma post-Jughead, and slowly sank after they left due to the destruction of it's most potent EM pocket.
R O T
20. rogerothornhill
@10 That is the best succinct explanation of the sideways flashes that I have read to date. Brilliant.

By the way, Doc Jensen says Smokey is Daniel Faraday. Love the dude but even he knows he's bonkers a lot of the time.

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