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At the manor house six sul'dam and six damane come out followed by a short, dark woman. Nynaeve detects that one of them is channeling; Cadsuane can do something about it when they get a little closer.(3) As they approach the small dark woman flickers. Rand and Lews Therin both recognize Semirhage and fight for saidin. While they are fighting, Semirhage throws a fireball at Rand. It destroys the Dragon Scepter and blows off his left hand.Note (3): Cadsuane apparently has a ter'angreal that disrupts weaves at close proximity. Is this the one Setalle Anan refers to in KoD,Ch7?
combined gorgeousness of Galad and that woman
" made no move to embrace the Source herself. One of her dangling hair ornaments, intertwined golden crescents, was cool at her temple."So that one, at least, is in contact with her temple.
- For Krassos, yes, a channeler could still channel wearing Mat’s amulet. Cadsuane has one much like it.
- For kcf, one of Cadsuane’s ornaments is a ter’angreal that can interfere with weaves. That is how she was able to disrupt Semirhage’s use of Illusion.
"Well,I suppose nobody lives forever," Noal sighed, retrieving his bamboo pole and basket. Burn him, but the fellow could make a colicky goat seem cheerful! Petra's frown certainly deepened. Married men always seemed to be worried, one reason Mat was in no hurry himself. As Noel vanished around the corner of the canvas wall, the one-eyed man watched the fish go regretfully. He appeared to be another without a full set of wits. He probably had a wife somewhere.
Running a green-gloved hand across the top of her head, she sighed, "Toy, Toy," She murmured, resettling the cowl of her cloak. "How many children's tales do you believe? Do you believe that if you sleep on Old Hob's Hill under a full moon, the snakes will give you true answers to three questions, or that foxes steal people's skins and take the nourishment from food so you can starve to death while eating your fill?"
"Jarna Malari was an Aes Sedai of and Sitter for the Gray Ajah during the Aiel War (NS, Ch. 6). She was also Black Ajah, and before Alviarin, was the Head of the Black Ajah (ACoS, Prologue)...While Moiraine and Siuan are taking notes on names collected for the Tower Bounty, Jarna arrives, wishing to speak with Moiraine. She asks Moiraine several questions about Cairhien, and who she thinks will take the Sun Throne now that Laman and his brothers are dead. Moiraine is afraid that Jarna is contemplating Moiraine for the throne (NS, Ch. 6)."
There are only two more powerful that a man can use. One at least, I know, still exists.So this seems to imply they cannot be both the Choedan Kal. In this case, there should have been one more sa'angreal for a man more powerful than Callandor.
“I cannot trust you fully, Lews Therin. Not yet.” She came closer, and he considered simply seizing her. He was bigger and stronger by far—and blocked as he was, she could wrap him up with the Power like a kitten tangled in a ball of string. “Not with that, certainly,” she added, grimacing at Callandor. “There are only two more powerful that a man can use. One at least, I know, still exists. No, Lews Therin. I will not trust you yet with that.”
We can destroy all of them, even Asmodean, once he has taught you all you need to know. You and I can rule the world together under the Great Lord, forever.” Her voice dropped to a whisper, equal parts eagerness and fear. “Two great sa’angreal were made just before the end, one that you can use, one that I can. Far greater than that sword. Their power is beyond imagining. With those, we could challenge even . . . the Great Lord himself. Even the Creator!”
I think he voices many of our "hidden" thoughts that we suppress in real life. Things our "self-editing" mechanism tells us to keep to ourselves.
"No," Moiraine said in answer to a question Rand had missed, "the True Source cannot be used up, any more than the river can be used up by the wheel of a mill. The Source is the river, the Aes Sedai the waterwheel."
Ring of Tamyrlin (TAHM-ehr-lin): a legendary ring, believed mythical by most people, worn by the leader of the Aes Sedai during the Age of Legends. Stories about the Ring of Tamyrlin include that it was an angreal or sa'angreal or ter'angreal of immense power. It supposedly was named after the first person to learn how to tap into the Source and channel the One Power, and in some tales, was actually made by that man or woman.
And her hands were clean. He wondered why her hands were clean when smudges of soot marked her cheeks.
"Egwene, I need you! And wash your hands again!"
There is no mention of er... public works like sewage disposal or water treatment.Rand sees models of new drains and sewers for Cairhien" at the school in LoC, Ch. 18.
Even more wondrous, in its own way, was the feeling that the bridge was taking her home. More wondrous, and shocking. Emond's Field is my home. But it was in Tar Valon that she would learn what she must to keep her alive, to keep her free. It was in Tar Valon that she would learn - must learn - why her dreams disturbed her so, and why they sometimes seemed to have meanings she could not puzzle out. Tar Valon was where her life was tied, now. If she ever returned to Emond's Field - the "if" hurt, but she had to be honest - if she returned it would be to visit, to see her parents. She had already gone beyond being an innkeeper's daughter. Those bonds would not hold her again, either, not because she hated them, but because she had outgrown them.
Aviendha will have four children, but Min says something will be odd.And some people think that Aviendha will only have two and Min will have the other two.
Some people think that something is odd about the way the children are conceived (after Rand is dead?). And some think that something is odd about the children (maybe they have the Singing abilities?).
with the largest application of balefire ever employed. Ever.Except, of course, for all the cities balefired out of the Pattern in the War of Power. ;) It is the largest modern application of balefire.
Q: Is Sammael dead?
RJ: Jordan responded that Sammael was dead as of the end of A Crown of Swords. Jordan felt that the character was a "louse" and didn't deserve a dramatic death ala Rahvin or Be'lal. He deserved a very vague death and was killed by something that he didn't pay attention to.
Attack on ground where your enemy believes you will not, from an unexpected direction at an unexpected time. Defend where your enemy believes you are not, and when he believes you will run. Surprise is the key to victory, and speed is the key to surprise. For the soldier, speed is life.And sure, this quote comes from Mat's memories of a General Comadrin, a man dead for quite some time, but that doesn't mean it's an original concept, or that Rand couldn't think of it himself.
There can be no health in us, nor any good thing grow, for the land is one with the Dragon Reborn, and he one with the land.shouldn't it start to improve without any other help now? Granted, the world will need more to get back to full health, but will the food spoilage slow or stop? This is equivalent to asking was the spoilage caused by the DO, or by Rand's changes? If it does inmprove, will the SG and Cadsuane link this to Rand's change?
Isilel,Thanks Tek. My sentiments exactly.
Seems to me that your own argument makes the case for Graendal NOT being all that intelligent after all. Smoke and mirrors. We are told she's smart, but she never acted it IMHO.
On the contrary. My stance is that:
1) Major villains should live up to their billing at least some of the time.
If somebody is supposed to be intelligent - show me their intelligence in action, instead of having them clumsily fall for a very obvious ploy.
Fifty women were far too many to shield and guard, and now that they knew stilling could be Healed, that wasn't an option.
...
The law was known, the Hall had made its judgment, and it had not been done in secret.
But if that's the case, Rand's epiphany will have no impact whatsoever on his effect on the world around him.
This verifies that the Compulsion did indeed come from Graendal, or else someone to whom she taught the weave. And who would she share this with? We never see her deal with Black sisters, and teaching someone else a weave with which they could control you, that's just not Graendal.In fact, after meeting with the Shaido, Graendel explicitly tells Sammael that she will not teach them Compulsion, because of the risk of strength and skill coming together. Thus, she would never teach anyone capable of performing the weave.
* She knew that Rand was specifically looking for her. He did tell that to anybody who would listen whilst in Arad Doman, after all.
* She knew that Rand would be familiar with her habitual MO due to Asmodean's tutelage - i.e. would know to look for Compulsion.
* She knew that 3rd agers could Delve and that some of them must be very good at it indeed, to Heal severing.
* She knew that a rather large number of female channelers worked for Rand.
All of this should have told her that her Compulsion on Rand's envoy was pretty likely to be discovered.
It was not necessary for her to forsee "death validation" or Rand's use of balefire. The notion that Rand was looking to validate her _presence_ by having Compulsion weaves detected was the simplest logic, though.
Now the obvious part of Rand's plan was that Ramshalan was very clearly a stalking horse/goat, whatever.
His story made zero sense, his sudden appearance was incredibly suspicious and it wasn't like Rand has a reputation of never letting _men_ come to harm.
So, why would Graendal, if she had 2 neurons to rub together, perform her signature move on him, without even trying for any obfuscation?
Ding, dong, the Witch is deadAnd while I'm at it:
Which old Witch?
The Wicked Witch!
Ding, dong, the Wicked Witch is dead!
Follow the yellow brick roadAnyone who wants to WoTify those songs is welcome...
Follow the yellow brick road
Follow, follow, follow, follow
Follow the yellow brick road
We're off to see the Wizard::foolish grin::
The wonderful Wizard of Oz
We hear he is a wiz of a wiz
If ever a wiz there was...
Mesaana appeared wan and subdued, for some reason, almost as if she had taken ill. Well that was possible. This Age had a number of nasty diseases, and it seemed unlikely even she would trust Semirhage for Healing.
I do also realize he was deeply hurt by the cost in lives to his wolf brother and sisters at Dumai’s Wells.Please don't disregard the loss of the lives of his entire family to trollocs in TSR. Being a little clingy with Faile and the wolves is perfectly natural after that.
As a corollary, to do nothing is to do evil. Doing good is an act of volition, but we can do evil by doing nothing.
If I were I would be so psyched to be a wolf! I realize the danger of being too vulpine...Vocabulary police on the prowl! You mean "lupine," not "vulpine." "Vulpine" (= foxlike) would be used to describe Mat.
But I've read the ending now. It works. It fits. A journey like this one hinges a lot on the destination. And that destination turned out to be everything I wanted it to be.He said long ago that the first time he went to Harriet's house and was given access to the whole shebang, he wanted to read two things: who killed Asmodean, and the ending. (Unfortunately, at the moment I can't find that article, so I can't give it to you straight up. But the above is a direct quote.) He mentioned being incredibly relieved to realize that the ending was already written, so he wouldn't have to do that, and feeling both surprised by it and totally satisified. Hope that makes you just as eager to read the last book as I am!! (You probably already were, but hey - I need to make sure everyone else has the twitches for it too!)
"I'm fan-boying all of this. And you said, 'Do you want some dinner?' And my response was, 'No, I want the ending. I want the ending and I want to know who killed Asmodean.'"
”I wonder if she'll see something in the columns that Rand, and her predecessors who were too shocked by their first revelation of what it means to be Aiel, might never have seen before (like the Song?) “
”I believe that Rand has turned the tide, and that the 'bleed through' will reverse itself and Moridin will start "rethinking" his let everything burn Philosophy. I believe that is the true meaning of the ‘No man may stand long enough in the shadow and not come out of it’ phrase.”
"The only quote that surprised me was the one stating that Ishamael didn't have anything to do with the formation of the 3 oaths."
Let the Prince of the Morning sing to the land that green things will grow and the valleys give forth lambs.
I will be looking for a detail, and then get derailed into reading a couple of chapters.Happens to me all the time.
But Mat is the only one we see POV on the other side of the Doorways; co-incidence?
Jesus had a lot more time that that; probably since He was 12, if not earlier (we don't know how much Mary told him about His birth).
Luke 2:42-50 ~
And when he was twelve years old, they went up to Jerusalem after the custom of the feast.
And when they had fulfilled the days, as they returned, the child Jesus tarried behind in Jerusalem; and Joseph and his mother knew not of it.
But they, supposing him to have been in the company, went a day's journey; and they sought him among their kinsfolk and acquaintance.
And when they found him not, they turned back again to Jerusalem, seeking him.
And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions.
And all that heard him were astonished at his understanding and answers.
And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing.
And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business?
And they understood not the saying which he spake unto them.
Humans usually have 20 primary teeth (also called deciduous, baby, or milk teeth) and 32 permanent teeth. Among primary teeth, ten are found in the (upper) maxilla and the other ten in the (lower) mandible. Teeth are classified as incisors, canines, and molars. In the primary set of teeth, there are two types of incisors, centrals and laterals, and two types of molars, first and second. All primary teeth are replaced with permanent counterparts except for molars, which are replaced by permanent premolars. Among permanent teeth, 16 are found in the maxilla with the other 16 in the mandible. The maxillary teeth are the maxillary central incisor, maxillary lateral incisor, maxillary canine, maxillary first premolar, maxillary second premolar, maxillary first molar, maxillary second molar, and maxillary third molar. The mandibular teeth are the mandibular central incisor, mandibular lateral incisor, mandibular canine, mandibular first premolar, mandibular second premolar, mandibular first molar, mandibular second molar, and mandibular third molar. Third molars are commonly called "wisdom teeth" and may never erupt into the mouth or form at all. If any additional teeth form, for example, fourth and fifth molars, which are rare, they are referred to as supernumerary teeth.So we are entitled to all 32.
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As always, treat each other with respect, especially when you disagree
Q: How did Aginor manage to sense the Shadar Logoth dagger in the The Eye of the World?(from a September 2005 Q&A at DragonCon) I haven't done exhaustive research on it yet, so that's all I found so far. Still, it seems like the questioner assumed Aginor sensed the dagger, and RJ more or less confirmed it by responding as he did. He said several times that Aginor & Balthamel were much more aware of what was going on in the world than the other Forsaken;
RJ: That has to do with the end of Winter's Heart. It's an effect of resonance. The dagger is the same evil as the evil of Shadar Logoth. You can say its diametrically opposite to the taint, that's the evil on saidin. Rand, in one point in Shadar Logoth feels it repulsing with each other. And especially in the wounds on his side. There is a resonance created. A positive and negative pulse of evil, you might say.
And those two guys, in effect, spent the last three thousand years in a state of feeling that they had no body - they certainly had no ability to move - that they were simply trapped minds, but aware and drifting over the face of the earth, able to hear people, able to see what was happening in one area or another. They could speak the language when they came out.
"It takes more than bravery to bind a man to the Horn." Artur Hawkwing's voice was deep and carrying, a voice used to giving commands.
"Or a woman." Birgitte said sharply.
"Or a woman." Hawkwing agreed. "Only a few are bound to the Wheel, spun out again and again to work the will of the Wheel in the Pattern of the Ages. You could tell him, Lews Therin, could you but remember when you wore flesh." He was looking at Rand.
In the course of this answer, he related this to why Hawkwing calls Rand "Lews Therin" at Falme--because Hawkwing recognizes this soul. This didn't really tell me why he specifically calls him "Lews Therin", but apparently they've been hangin' together in Tel'aran'rhiod and the etiquette there is to call each other by the name of your last incarnation. (My interpretation.)
Everyone else seems to more or less hang in oblivion. (IIRC, we've never been told what happens to non-Hero souls between times.)
Now if someone can just define "an ordinary afterlife" we'll be well-informed! ;)
”By the Light and my hope of salvation and rebirth, I swear to… or may the Creator’s face turn from me forever and darkness consume my soul.”tells us a fair bit.
- The Fires of Heaven, Fanning the Sparks
It's over, then, he thought, unable to keep his eyes open. He closed them, falling as if through an endless void. Did I do well, Father, or did I fail?
There was no answer. And he joined with the void, tumbling into an endless sea of blackness.
She did have dreams she knew were significant, but learning to interpret them was another matter.....Another dream. Mat throwing dice with blood streaming down his face, the wide brim of his hat pulled low so she could not see his wound, while Thom Merrilin put his hand into a fire to draw out the small blue stone that now dangled on Moiraine's forehead.
Why do you think I have not stepped through? Days ago I could have asked what Rand must do to survive and triumph, how he can defeat the Forsaken and the Dark One, how he can learn to control the Power and hold off madness long enough to do what he must."
Avendesora. A chora tree. A city is a wilderness without choras. And now there's only one.
"...Then know this. Fact becomes history; history becomes legend; legend becomes myth. Myth turns again to the beginning and creates itself. The figure for time isn't an arrow; that is illusion, just as the straight line is. Time is a serpent."
Rudi blinked. He noticed the bracelet around one thick wrist, where the coat rode up; it was in the form of a snake, wrought of gold so finely that the scales were a manifold shiver that seemed to spin away in infinite sets.
DragonCon 3 September 2005 - Emma reporting
Q: How did Aginor manage to sense the Shadar Logoth dagger in the The Eye of the World?
RJ: That has to do with the end of Winter's Heart. It's an effect of resonance. The dagger is the same evil as the evil of Shadar Logoth. You can say it's diametrically opposite to the taint, that's the evil on saidin. Rand, in one point in Shadar Logoth feels it repulsing with each other. And especially in the wounds on his side. There is a resonance created. A positive and negative pulse of evil, you might say.
Emma: So it doesn't require actual channeling?
RJ: No, but you have to be close to it. It's not something you can sense from a close distance use to track Padan Fain down.
TOR Questions of the Week, August 2004-January 2005
Week 14 Question: If the Forsaken were sealed away in Shayol Ghul since the Age of Legends, with no contact with the outside world, wouldn't they be speaking the Old Tongue when they woke back up? How did they learn the Common Tongue?
Robert Jordan Answers: They still do speak the Old Tongue among themselves, but the first two who were freed, Aginor and Balthamel, had been held very near to the edge of the sealing, the reason they were so visibly affected and twisted while the rest came out whole and healthy, and they were very much aware of what had gone on in the world outside. You might say they had floated in limbo while watching three thousand plus years roll by, with the ability to zoom in. That is probably the only reason they didn't emerge entirely mad. In truth, those two have a much better understanding of the current world than any of the others because they watched it forming. They don't have a complete knowledge, because they couldn't see and hear everything at once, but they have an overview that is unavailable to any of the others, excepting Ishamael to a lesser extent. But then, he's a special case.
Driving Mr. Sanderson (from Half Moon Bay to San Jose), 21 November 2009 - Matt Hatch reporting
Matt: Ok. You mentioned that Mordeth was a man that had "power". You are reported as saying that his power was that "which he got by seeking out all of the evil things that weren’t related to the Shadow"…
Brandon: He was seeking things that were related to the Shadow. I think that that might be a misquote. He was looking into the power of the Shadow in order to defeat it, was his goal. He was looking into everything. He was looking into things that were not necessarily related to the Dark One as well. He was looking for everything that he could get.
Matt: Previous to him arriving to Aridhol?
Brandon: Yeah.
Matt: Before he went to the king and became the counselor, Mordeth was this guy that went around searching for power?
Brandon: Yeah, he wanted to defeat the Dark One and he felt that he could find other ways to do it. He originally was good. He did not…he wasn’t this terrible person to begin with, but he was looking to defeat the Dark One, to find a way to defeat the Shadow. And he looked into a lot of things he shouldn’t have looked into. There are evils that are not necessarily directly related to the Dark One, though everything evil kind of has…just as there are goods that are not related necessarily to the One Power…we are talking much as Perrin runs with wolves. This is a thing older than…there are other evil things that are old in a similar way.
Matt: Is the assumption then that he found one of these?
Brandon: He did.
Matt: He found one or multiple?
Brandon: He found many things of darkness. There is one in specific that is driving him, but he knew too much. He found things he should not have gotten into and that is what turned him into…when he got there he was already corrupt. He still thought he was doing a good work. He still thought, 'We are going to raise this kingdom up and it is going to become this bastion against the Shadow', but he was already by then corrupted.
Matt: Is this same corrupting influence what corrupts everyone through the dagger itself?
Brandon: Yeah. Through him, yes. And even through his presence.
As for the wording of Min's viewing, I don't think anyone has any real semantic basis for insisting that Alivia's role be more direct. It's easy enough to assume that it implies a direct role - Rand has made this assumption - but there is nothing in the wording that implies a direct role.
Apparently Alviarin experienced no such reluctance. One corner of her mouth quirked momentarily in what might have been smile or grimace. "I will redouble our efforts to retake Taim. And I suggest that a sister be dispatched to counsel Tenobia. Someone used to overcoming the sort of stubborn resistance that young woman will put up."
Others rushed to help fill the silence.
Joline shifted her green-fringed shawl on slender shoulders and smiled, though it seemed a bit forced. "Yes. She needs an Aes Sedai at her shoulder. Someone to handle Bashere. He has excessive influence with Tenobia. He must move his army back where it can be used if the Blight wakes up."
"And someone to Shienar," added Javindhra, another Red.
"As for Tenobia and Davram Bashere," Alviarin went on, "are we agreed that they must be dealt with by sisters?" She hardly waited for heads to nod. "Good. It is done. Memara will do nicely; she will take no nonsense from Tenobia, while never letting her see the leash.
Elaida's hand tightened on her stole. Nothing touched her face, but her eyes smouldered. The matter of the Saldean army was done. At least Memara was Red; that was a surprise. But they had not even asked her opinion.
"What about Aes Sedai?" Save for Paitar's, their White Tower advisors had all left at news of the troubles in the Tower, her own Nianh and Easar's Aisling vanishing without a trace.
"You hardly expected me to leave Coladara behind, Ethenielle," he said in soothing tones, "even if I could have kept the preparations from her." "Coladara had visitors," he continued. "Seven of them. Bringing them along seemed prudent, under the circumstances. Fortunately, they require little convincing. None, in truth."
"And I have five more," Tenobia put in as if announcing she had a new pair of slippers. "They found me just before I left Saldea. By chance, I'm sure; they appeared as surprised as I was. Once they learned what I was doing - I still don't know how they did, but they did - once they learned, I was sure they'd go scurrying to find Memara." Her brows furrowed in a momentary glare. Elaida had miscalculated badly in sending a sister to try bullying Tenobia. "Instead," she finished, "Illeisien and the rest were more intent on secrecy than I."
"Further south", Easar added, "it may be well to have thirteen Aes Sedai with us."
TITLE - The Shadow Rising
CHAPTER: 17 - Deceptions
Leane examined the red wax seal on the end of one of the small cylinders, no larger than her own finger joint, then broke it open with a thumbnail when she was satisfied it had not been tampered with. The rolled paper inside she extracted with a slim ivory pick. "Nearly as bad as Trollocs, Mother," she said almost as soon as she began reading. "Mazrim Taim has escaped."
"Light!" Siuan barked. "How?"
"This only says he was taken away by stealth in the night, Mother. Two sisters are dead."
"The Light illumine their souls. But we've little time to mourn the dead while the likes of Taim are alive and ungentled. Where, Leane?"
"Denhuir, Mother. A village east of the Black Hills on the Maradon Road, above the headwaters of the Antaeo and the Luan."
"It had to be some of his followers. Fools. Why won't they know when they are beaten? Choose out a dozen reliable sisters, Leane..." The Amyrlin grimaced. "Reliable," she muttered. "If I knew who was more reliable than a silverpike, I'd not have the problems I do. Do the best you can, Leane. A dozen sisters. And five hundred of the guards. No, a full thousand."
TOR Questions of the Week, February 2005-July 2005
Week 1 Question: Are the Eelfinn limited in their power to grant wishes? To what degree can they affect the outside world? Also, is there any relation between what the Aelfinn do and Min's ability?
Robert Jordan Answers: Oh, yes, there definitely are limits to the powers of the Eelfinn. For one thing, they cannot affect the outside world at all. If you said that you wanted to be King of the World, you might well find that what you received was not what you expected. For example, they might put you out of their world into a world with no other sentient life, where you would be king by default. Then again, you might find yourself with the necessary skills to make yourself King of the World, if you were able. Actually achieving it would be up to you. But then, many of their "gifts" are skewed in this way. You must be very careful is you're asking if you want to receive what you are hoping for. And yet, remember that Mat actually did receive very much what he asked for. Just not in the way that he wanted.
No, there is no connection between what the Aelfinn do and what Min does.
Knife of Dreams tour 26 October 2005 - Tremul reporting
Tremul: Do Min and the 'Finn do the same thing when predicting and answering questions?
Answer: No
Crossroads of Twilight Book Tour, Barnes and Noble signing NY, NY - 7 January 2003 - David Funcke reporting
When RJ signed my copies of Winter's Heart and Crossroads of Twilight, I asked him a question. Because of wording he uses when describing the Finn and their meeting with Mat, I thought that maybe Min’s viewings had some relation to them. RJ describes the Finn as looking, not at Mat, but at the air around Mat’s head. I thought this was similar to the way Min sees her viewings. Are they related, I asked him?
No, he said flatly.
Thus she gained another nightmare to join the babe in the snow and the faceless man. She sat on the Sun Throne wearing the shawl of an Aes Sedai, and in the streets outside, the mobs were destroying the city. She spent most of that sleepless night praying to be tested soon. Even tomorrow could not be too soon. Light, she was not ready, but she had to escape. Somehow..
~and~
Her nightmares continued, of the babe in the snow and the faceless man and the Sun Throne, although not as frequently, save the last. Ever as bad, though.
~and~
Her knees should have been shaking in fear of Sierin, if not Master Gorthanes, but as Tar Valon and the Tower began shrinking behind her, all she felt was a great burst of freedom and excitement. They could not put her on the Sun Throne, now.
One thing I would like to see in ToM is a meeting of Seanchan Gardeners and the Randland Ogiers.I believe RJ was asked if that would happen and he said "yes". Obviously it is up to BWS now.
Here's a (possible) spanner in the clockworks: There has been speculation about the loss of the True Source/One Power: What if it happens as a result of the resealing of the Dark One's prison? Loss of the OP would certainly remove the type of temptation that Mierin and Beidomon faced in the AOL.According to the WOT Cosmology, access to the OP must be lost at some point. One nice point - if it happens at the end of this Age, it removes the most odious aspect of Seanchan domination as the damane issue disappears.
Another scene I"m looking forward to is when Elayne finds out that Rand is Tigraine's son.Ditto! As well as Galad's reaction. :D Oh, I also believe that Elayne may die in/after childbirth, leaving Avi with the twins.
...Mikel of the Pure Heart, and Shivan the Hunter behind his black mask. He was said to herald the end of Ages, the destruction of what had been and the birth of what was to be, he and his sister Calian, called the Chooser, who rode red-masked at his side....So yes, there is a brother/sister pair who are said to appear at the end of Ages. No proof that they're twins, actually, just an assumption made because they're mentioned together and because having Elayne's twins be them would be cool.
8. Rand will throw Callandor in the Far Madding lake.
"Each one made into an idiot by Graendal's Compulsion," Rand replied. "She never lets anyone close to her without destroying their mind first. The boy she sent to work the jail barely knew a fraction of the torture most of her pets receive. She leaves them without ability to think or act - all they can do is kneel and adore her, perhaps run errands at her commend. I did them a favor."Ramshalan was already a fool, but he is no more of an idiot after the attack as he was before. And as a reminder, Nynaeve has experience with three events of Compulsion: That used on her by Moghedien; what she removed from Kerb, and what she detected in Ramshalan, which she described as "heavy".
