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Jan 24 2010 12:46pm
Gateway drugs: what books are good for introducing non-SF readers to SF?

As a follow-up to my recent post on SF reading protocols, I thought it would be interesting to ask what books people have used to successfully turn other people on to SF?

(Here as before “SF” means the broad genre of “science fiction and fantasy”.)

My aunt is an interesting case. When I was a teenager she bounced off book after book and author after author that I was loving. She couldn’t read The Door Into Summer! (It had a cat in it. She loves cats!) She couldn’t read The Lord of the Rings! When she couldn’t read The Left Hand of Darkness I gave up. When I started again, twenty years later when we’d both grown up more and she’d read some of my books (out of literal nepotism), I succeeded in getting her to read Robin McKinley’s Beauty, Sharon Shinn’s Summers at Castle Auburn, and Susan Palwick’s The Necessary Beggar.

The key to getting someone into reading genre is to find out what they already like reading and find something in genre that’s like that. It works much better than the cat thing, or than giving them the books you love best. If they like military adventure, try them with The Warrior’s Apprentice. If they like mysteries, try Komarr, and if they like romance, try Shards of Honor. And while it’s not always possible to do this all within one author—and one series—that just shows how versatile Bujold is. She’s easy to read too, without ever being simplistic. That’s important.

With kids and young adults I don’t think there’s a problem. They’re either used to things going over their heads and don’t care, or as Crotchety Old Fan puts it, “because at the age of 12, we believed that anything was possible. It wasn’t ignorance of the world that spawned our interest, it was the positive knowledge that the world had no limits, and neither did we.” It doesn’t make any difference which of these is the case, it’s still the case for kids.

The problem comes with adults who are used to stories or used to books where all the technology is real and explained in detail. (You wouldn’t believe how boring men’s adventure books can be about guns. And cars!) This was tachyon drive guy’s problem. Or, on the literary end, adults who are used to reading stories with ghosts, but used to the ghosts being symbolic. I wasn’t trying to say that nothing has a metaphorical level, just that in SF we treat the unreal realistically within the story. If we’re talking about a drug that lets people live to be two hundred, we may well be talking about death and the finitude of life, but we also treat the reality and the limitations of that life extension realistically. The rules won’t change in the middle because they’re SF rules, not emotional rules. In a literary story with a ghost, the ghost is only there for a metaphorical reason, and will leave when it’s fulfilled its emotional and metaphorical purpose. This feels like breaking the rules to us, and the way we do it feels like breaking the rules to a literary reader, because they’re different rules.

For someone like tachyon drive guy, I’d give him Cryptonomicon. For the literary type you can often get them with dystopias, which they sort of know how to read, and then you can ease them on to Geoff Ryman, who can usually be read both ways successfully. And I’ve had a remarkable amount of luck with Megan Lindholm’s Wizard of the Pigeons.

So, have you had any success? And with what?


Jo Walton is a science fiction and fantasy writer. She’s published eight novels, most recently Half a Crown and Lifelode, and two poetry collections. She reads a lot, and blogs about it here regularly. She comes from Wales but lives in Montreal where the food and books are more varied.

77 comments
Leigh Butler
1. leighdb
I very rarely try to get people into SF who aren't into it already, but then I never really had to. None of my female relatives are into SF at all, but they all have a habit of just following me around, in a literary sense. Meaning, my mother generally won't voluntarily seek out SF books, but she'll happily pick up whatever I've got lying around, read it, and then pass it to my sisters, who pass it to my aunt, who passes it to my grandmother.

They all write their comments about the book on the inside flap, too. With names and dates.

I love my family.
p l
2. p-l
For hardcore literary readers I think great prose and acclaim from outside the genre are both key. And - I hate to say it - covers without spaceships are important, too.

My stepmom, whose favorite authors are Annie Dillard and Dostoyevsky, stayed up all night with a look of abject horror on her face, unable to put down M. John Harrison's The Course of the Heart. Then I gave her Magic for Beginners and Little, Big, and now (two years later) she buys Strahan's best of the year anthologies on her own...
Dru O'Higgins
3. bellman
Well, the books I've observed non-fans read-

Books of Amber( first 5) by Zelazny. These were passed around my 7th grade class. Seriously. It was like Harry Potter or something.

The early Heinleins. It worked for us, why not for them? A couple of girls in the 10th grade accidentally found Stranger. They were using the word "grok" as a private code and thought they were being really original.

Harper Hall trilogy and first three of the Pern books. Even my Mom read these.

Douglas Adams. Although they then thought quoting Hitchhiker's was a substitute for real humour.
Jeremy Hull
4. snowdog79
Back in college I loaned Ender's Game to a girl I had just met. She had never read much SF, but I told her it was an amazing book and she should try it out.

She's now my wife, and is currently in the next room watching her Farscape DVDs, which she's watching because she's seen every Stargate episode from every season at least four times and just finished her latest Wheel of Time re-read.

Pretty darn cool.
Oran Kelley
5. Oran Kelley
Man in the High Castle is good, partially for the reasons many Dick fans dislike it: its wackiness is a bit restrained and it's more "done" than most of Dicks novels. But Dick's female characters are . . . not particularly engaging.

I had some luck turning female friends on to William Kotzwinkle, who writes on the borderland of fantasy.

Some of Tim Powers's stuff (Declare, Last Call, Anubis) seems to cross over well.

Connie Willis for people who like whimsy or comedic writers like Hiaasen. Passage for those that don't.
Tex Anne
6. TexAnne
I don't know; all my reading friends are already SF readers. Except my brother, who refuses to read anything fictional--he won't even read the Great Canonical Classics. He's reading Harry Potter to his children, but. If anyone can think of a way to get him to read novels, I'll be in your debt forever.

OTOH, the middle-schoolers I know are all branching out from HP into other f/sf. I've been pushing Diana Wynne Jones and Ellen Klages as hard as I can! Unfortunately, by the time they get to high school, they're too busy with schoolwork to read for fun. They don't hate reading, but they prefer to vegetate in front of video games or DVDs. I'm hoping they'll pick it back up again in college.
Jeff Miller
7. joymark
I would second the use of Harry Potter for general audiences. I think for older readers, if they've seen the movies they might want to skip the first two or three and jump into the middle of the series.

I also echo Orson Scott Card's Ender books, especially for younger readers.

I think the Belgariad series by David Eddings is often overlooked, especially nowadays as it seems to be looked down upon by some snooty fantasy readers. I finally convinced my son to read it, and he said the other day, "This is the best book I've ever read."

Terry Brooks' Shannara stuff is pretty easy to get into. I would usually recommend starting with Elfstones of Shannara even though it's not the first book in the mythology.
Jo Walton
8. bluejo
Leigh: I love your family too! They sound awesome.
Oran Kelley
9. PRT
I use SF for teaching composition courses occasionally, and I've been really surprised by what works to get my students engaged and what doesn't. Old Man's War by John Scalzi grabbed a couple of my students enough that they willingly read the whole thing over spring break (only the first 100 pages were due) and asked me for other SF recommendations. A few of Ted Chiang's short stories also went over really well. Elizabeth Moon's Speed of Dark got a few of my students in a disability studies class interested in her other work--even though SoD is very different from her other works.
j p
10. sps49
@1- Awwww!

Start them with a good movie from a book. I'd been trying for years (decades! !) to get my mom to read The Hobbit, but getting her to see the LotR movie was easier. Also Harry Potter, of course.

The Ender's Game short story has worked for me.

Second the Heinlein juvies and the Belgariad. I dunno why it isn't in vogue now (unless fan irritation at later works is a factor), but in the early 80's I loved the snarky world-savers. I think they pre-dated Roseanne and Married: With Children, which (at first) also used realistic smart-ass attitude.

EDIT: Mid-80's, I mean.
Oran Kelley
11. Harry Connolly
Hasn't ERAGON brought a bunch of new readers in? And those HALO books? Karen Traviss has said, iirc, that the people reading the HALO tie-ins don't consider themselves readers, but love the books. Still, a few of them must have ventured into other areas of the shelf, yeah?

What about gateway books that the sf community looks down on?
Amy Sisson
12. amysisson
This might not be the approach you're thinking of, but I have had great success with non-spec-fic book groups by getting them to read Mary Doria Russell's "The Sparrow" (success = they then insisted on reading the follow-up, "Children of God"), Ken Grimwood's "Replay", and Audrey Niffenegger's "The Time Traveler's Wife." "Replay" is probably better classed as fantasy, but "The Sparrow" is definitely SF (publishing marketing notwithstanding!) and I would also argue that "Time Traveler's Wife" is SF.
stephanie keenan
13. adriel_moonstar
The Heinlein juveniles...believe me if my mother would read them anyone could! I remember her staying up until all hours reading Time for the Stars.

And for those who want something a little more contemporary (and in print) you don't have to look far. There are some serious bestsellers that are on the cusp of SF.

Dan Brown- The Lost Symbol and Angels and Demons have more of an SF feel than The DaVinci Code, but take what you can get.

Preston and Child- the special agent Prendergast novels are a bit more on the gothic suspense side, but their individual books definitely lean toward SF.

And for the young at heart you can't go wrong with Harry Potter, Twilight, Percy Jackson...
Alex Brown
14. Milo1313
I've actually had pretty good luck with authors like Gaiman, McKinley, Pratchett, Jones, and Adams. When I hand someone "Sunshine" or "Good Omens" or "Howl's Moving Castle" or "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency" (and, most recently, Gail Carriger's "Soulless"...and Kit Whitfield...and Cherie Priest) it's like getting them to read fantasy without them realizing it. Leiber and Blaylock have been harder to introduce, but they've worked fairly well as second or third steps. I stay completely away from Tolkien and his ilk because they carry too many preconceptions with them (but mostly because I can't stand them).

I work at a library and have slowly been getting the teens to read these authors and I've yet to have one of them come back with a negative review, though they never would've read them on their own accord. In fact, we're now actively increasing our SF section in the YA department, which makes me immensely pleased. I can't wait for them to age up a bit...I'm dying to throw "Y: The Last Man", "Preacher", and "Sandman" at them.
Oran Kelley
15. t1m
Should Ender's Game (Mein Kampf for beginners) really be recommended for young children? Let them grow up a bit first before exposing them to Card's stomach churning propaganda.

What about some Asimov short story collections? Always found them very accessible, with some great dialogue.
Chris Long
16. radynski
Ender's Game works every time. I really think its one of the best books ever. Any time I give it to someone to read, they always love it.

I just tell them that its a little bit in the future, and we're at war with an Alien race, and we're losing. So we're basically breeding our kids to be supersmart in the hopes of making a general who will win us the war. So they take these kids away to Battle School when they're really young, and basically start training them to be the next generation of commanders.

But that's just the backdrop. The book is really all about this poor kid who's been beat up by his older brother and pushed around his whole life. The story centers around him and his siblings and how they deal with what's happening in the world. It's set in a sci-fi world, but it's really about these kids.
Erika Amaya
17. brownjawa
My boyfriend is really into guns and cars--all sorts of machine toys the squirt grease and require messy interactions. I recommended to him John Scalzi's Old Man's War and Karen Traviss' City of Pearl because they're military SF, but not so much that there wasn't some softer elements I could then use to transition him into an author like Ursula K. Le Guin (what a leap!). And it worked. :)
Fabio Fernandes
18. fabiofernandes
I decided to go bang with my Games class last semester in the university - Gave them all Dune to read. Some of them didn't like it, but I had a wonderful surprise by the end of the semester: almost 20% of them (there were 40 students of 18-20 y.o. in the class) not only read the entire book but also started reading the other books of the saga - one of them even made it to God-Emperor of Dune, and other one was asking me all about the prequels.

Most of those students hadn't any idea of who the hell that Frank Herbert character was - their idea of SF is manga/anime. Now many of them are already asking me what I'm going to give them to read next month, when classes begin again here in Brazil. ;-)
Oran Kelley
19. GuruJ
Modern William Gibson, for sure. When i first read "Pattern Recognition" after Neuromancer i kept wondering where the sci-fi was! (But it's still one of my favourite books.)
Ron Griggs
20. RonGriggs
If I wanted to introduce SF to someone, I wouldn't start with novels. I'd start with short stories, a form that fits so well with SF. You could grab just about any collection of Hugo winners or "Best of" collections. I've shared Arthur C. Clarke short stories to non-SF folks successfully for many years. It gets the point across that SF starts with ideas, some of which are expressed pointedly and beautifully in space of a short story.

A friend was appalled at the first Callahan's Bar (Spider Robinson) story I pushed on him, knowing he had a weakness for puns. But he couldn't put them down after that and it led to the hard stuff. If Robinson or Clarke isn't your cup of tea, collections of Leiber, Pohl, Bester, Zelazny, LeGuin, Sturgeon or Heinlein can work.
Oran Kelley
21. AndrrewB
I agree with joymark @7 and sps49 @ 10 about David Eddings as a good fantasy intro author for adolescents (sp?). While Eddings' plot is not complicated, his characters are well written. Most of his speaking characters are well developed so that thhey read like real people.

Another way to ease someone into fantasy is to introduce them to a quality fantasy-based magazine. I have been a long-time subscriber to Realms of Fantasy. Each issue the magazine has several short stories. (The stories are general fantasy; not exclusively what I would describe as Tolkein fantasy .) If the person generally does not like to read, short stories may be a way to keep his or her attention.

AndrewB
Alida Saxon
23. alida
My mother's difficult to get into SF/F. She'll watch a movie or tv show, the same way people who "don't do fantasy" have watched LotR. Books are a harder sell. My first success was starting with the Detective Inspector Chen series, since she loves mysteries, and asian mythology appeals to her curiosity.

Then books from Gregory Maguire, because it's playing with the old bedtime stories and familiar fairytales.

Magic realism has since worked with her too, like Isabel Allende's work. I just know by now to stay away from deep fantasy that hasn't even a toehold in our own reality. She was able to enjoy Sabriel, by Garth Nyx, which was as far as managed to push the boundaries. So far.

I keep trying and she has become more willing to experament, the more often I succeed in finding books not so far from her core interests.
Tex Anne
24. TexAnne
Alida--has she tried Guy Gavriel Kay? She might like the Icelandic sagas, too. No fantasy at all, just history from a distinctly non-modern point of view.
Stephanie Gibson
25. stfg
My father is a fan of dark, gritty european mysteries and cold war intrigue of the John Le Carre or Henning Mankel variety. He has a Master's in German Literature and was a journalist in Germany for Business Week for six years in the 1970's. I recently gave him The Yiddish Policemen's Union by Michael Chabon, which he thought was amazing. I also gave him The City and the City by China Mieville, which he was less enthusiastic about but still enjoyed, saying it "was a nice, light read." Both of these books are mysteries as well as SF, and I hoped to use his knowledge of mystery protocol to get him through the SF. I think the Yiddish Policemen's Union is easier for a non-SF reader because it is alternate history, but does not otherwise use SF tropes that might have been hard for my father to follow.

I am also in a book club that consists of 13 women. I think only 5 of them, including me, have graduated from college, and several do not read much beyond bestsellers like Nicholas Sparks and Dan Brown. About half of what we read is Chick Lit, though we have also read the Poisonwood Bible by Barbara Kingsolver, Roots by Alex Haley, and Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck. Nobody in this group reads SF, though one woman does like horror and graphic novels. We've been doing this for 4 years now, and we each get to pick roughly one book a year. This year I decided to give them a gentle introduction to SF and picked How to Ditch Your Fairy by Justine Larbalestier and "Mountains of Mourning" by Lois McMaster Bujold. The Larbalestier went over extremely well, and I got into some arguments over whether it really was fantasy or not. I think it is accessible because Charlie feels like a modern-day teen with modern-day concerns and because the book is light and cute and fun. Only one person had gotten to the Bujold, and she loved it. I have not heard back if anyone else managed to get it read. I think I lost them on the whole "it takes place on another planet" thing.
Sandi Kallas
26. Sandikal
"The Sparrow" by Mary Doria Russell or "Eifelheim" by Michael Flynn would be excellent for fans of literary fiction.

John Scalzi's books are great for people who want a fast pace and lots of action. His books read like movies. Even my husband loved "Old Man's War" and he hates science fiction.

Sharon Shinn's "Archangel" is romance with a science fiction angle. A great read for those who love romances.

Lastly, I just read "Remnant Population" by Elizabeth Moon. It reminds me of the kind of books that got me hooked on science fiction. It's a wonderful, character-driven story. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it to non-SF readers.
Beth Friedman
27. carbonel
I totally gave up on my mother after I gave her a copy of Watership Down, and after reading 30 or so pages, she asked, "Is this book all about rabbits? I gave her Jane Yolen's Holocaust-related books, and she thanked me politely for them, and as far as I can tell, never read them.

Which is why I was surprised to discover that she liked Never Let Me Go. What she really likes, best I can tell, is mainstream that steers a path between chicklit and literary, and apparently this book hit enough of her buttons and inclued sufficiently well for her to enjoy it. I'm not sure what else to recommend, though -- she found The Time Traveler's Wife too confusing.

On the other hand, my brother has been reading SF for quite a while, but very little I liked. (He loves Stanislaw Lem and Bruce Sterling; those leave me cold.) I think we met in the middle for the first time with Darwin's Radio, and now we're slowly finding books we can recommend to each other. But we never had protocol issues, just compatibility ones.
Oran Kelley
28. Meg Thornton
For very young readers (ie under age 10), I'd suggest C S Lewis' Narnia books. They're at least part of what hooked me into the whole genre. If they notice it's a very thinly veiled rewrite of the New Testament, so be it. If they don't, so be it as well. Although, really, pulling in very young readers isn't necessary - they're generally well aware of the origins of the fantasy genre, because they're used to the standard fairy tales and similar. So go back to the source, get a good solid book of Grimm's collected fairy stories, and the Hans Christian Andersen stuff, and give 'em the warts-and-all versions.

I second the recommendation of the Heinlein juveniles (after all, he was writing for the young adult audience). Okay, they're chock-full of sexist attitudes, and the economic and social theory in his books is enough to have me throwing it at a wall these days, but they're still a good, page-turning read. However, if your potential reader finds Heinlein annoying, hand them the Dune books - from observational evidence, a lot of teens who can't stand one of these authors will cheerfully evangelize about the other. The later Heinleins have sex mentioned in them (although quite frankly, the Heinlein version of a sex scene - extremely soft focus, very rapid fade to black - doesn't even rate as titilation in these degenerate modern times) so they'll do for the type of kid who wants to read the "naughty bits" of a book in order to shock their family and friends. For that one, I'd suggest I Will Fear No Evil, even though as a story it doesn't stand out as anything special; it's just that the sexy bits are so thoroughly mixed in with the plotty bits that even the most plot-averse reader will soon discover they're highlighting just about every page.

I wouldn't recommend The Lord of the Rings to anyone as a starter, quite frankly. I couldn't read it through until after I'd seen the first of the Peter Jackson films approximately five times (and trust me, I'd tried prior to that... but I kept getting bogged down in the scenery before I even reached Bree, and giving up in disgust). The biggest problem is that while Tolkien wrote a wonderful story, it takes forever to get off the ground, and modern readers aren't set up to take in approximately nine chapters of wind-up before the story really gets going. Tolkien may have written some of the best fantasy out there, but often a chunk of Extruded Fantasy Product is much more readable for newer readers.

Which leads, of course, to the Belgariad. Certainly put the Belgariad on the list if you want to introduce someone to multi-volume fantasy. But leave it with just the Belgariad (and possibly the Malloreon, because that series at least hangs a tastefully decent lampshade on the whole "yes, I'm giving you more of the same" mess) unless you want to prove a point by showing how the same author can sell the same idea to the same publisher with the same character cast and the same damn plot six times running.

If the potential reader is fond of humour and word games, try things like the early books of Piers Anthony's Xanth series (stop by about book five) or any of the Discworld series (with the caveat that The Colour of Magic is really much better if you've already read Lieber, Lovecraft and McCaffrey, since it riffs very strongly on those three authors for the first three sections). Good Omens is a good one to start off with for folks who are familiar with the Omen premise (or who are familiar with the book of Revelations). I'd also point to Charles Stross' Laundry books (The Atrocity Archive, The Jennifer Morgue) as a good intro for anyone who's familiar with the spy thriller genres (particularly the second of these, since it is a very deliberate riff on the most enduring example of same).

For samplers (someone who knows what they like, but isn't sure how to find it) go for short story collections. I discovered I actually liked Asimov through any number of short stories (particularly his humourous ones - Death of a Foy is still able to raise a chuckle from memory) although his novels didn't do a thing for me.
john mullen
29. johntheirishmongol
It all depends on the openness of the person to even try new material. My mother, 79, won't touch a scifi book of any kind. She hated I loved those books as a kid, wouldn't let me have a comic book because it was written for children. She's big into mysteries.

My wife met me at work, on a break I was reading Time Enough for Love. She knew Stranger...and 28 years later we are still good with sharing most all books togther. She did give up on WOT after 6 books but did love the Brandon Sanderson series.

My son read scifi, but our tastes vary a bit. I have a huge library of books and he would ask for something good to read. My daughter, didnt get into any genre books until she read Laurell Hamilton.

Mostly, I recommend Heinlein, Clarke, Asimov, for newbies, but some others that are good for starter adults would be something like Lucifer's Hammer, which is very accessable as an adventure story.
Oran Kelley
30. BritMandelo
I've found that Neil Gaiman can be a good jumping point. "Fragile Things" got my mother to open up to the idea of SFF, and since then she's started borrowing a variety of my books. (For the interested: "Fevre Dream" by George R. R. Martin, "Moon Called" by Patricia Briggs, a lot more Gaiman, "The Name of the Wind" by Patrick Rothfuss.)

She likes the mystery-plot ones best, but "Name of the Wind" really changed her mind about epic fantasy.
Rob Munnelly
31. RobMRobM
I'll third or fourth the Sparrow and its sequel - even my sf hating spouse loved them. For kids, perhaps Sanderson's Alcatraz books, which are exceedingly silly and funny and enjoyable to read. Rob
A G
32. grilojoe77
Some years back, I worked at the local bookstore and had occasion to recommend some books to co-workers and the one that I always had the best response from was Ray Bradbury's 'The Martian Chronicles'. It's always been one of my personal favorites. In one case, the girl I recommended the book to had never read any sort of sci-fi or fantasy. So I put 'The Martian Chronicles' in her hand and told her to read it. She didn't become my wife or anything but she really liked reading it. I've since lost track of her and so I have no idea if she read any more SF or not.
Oran Kelley
33. Kaylams
Definitely agree with everyone who has mentioned Gaiman and Adams. They are pretty accessible to just about everybody, through both humor and sheer good writing.

I've found the fastest way to get an Austen fan to love fantasy is to give them "Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell." It's almost guaranteed they'll love it. I haven't lent it to anyone yet, but I suspect "Johannes Cabal the Necromancer" could convert anyone who likes dark humor.
Kathleen J
34. tanaudel
I agree that Pratchett and Jones can be very effective - especially with people who like reading and the idea of stories anyway, because those books play with those ideas. I forced "Deep Secret" upon friends - two sisters - who didn't give it back until they'd read it three times each. The next time I saw them they were on their way back from picking up their own copies at the local independent SF bookstore (multiple wins, there). Last time I saw them they were very excited about finding "8 Days of Luke" at a sale.

Also, practising a Welsh accent and then holding people down and reading Howl's Moving Castle at them can have a remarkable effect.
Oran Kelley
35. N. Mamatas
Books they've already read. Stephen King, The Lovely Bones, Harry Potter, Interview With a Vampire etc.

"I don't read SF!"

"Sure you do..." *points to bookshelf*

"oooh..."
Oran Kelley
36. individualfrog
"The rules won’t change in the middle because they’re SF rules, not emotional rules."

This is pretty much why I prefer so-called literary fiction, and generally do not like much SF as defined by the bookshops. As one of the 'target audience' then, here's what I do like, very much:

William Gibson
Diana Wynne Jones
HG Wells
Connie Willis
Lloyd Alexander's Prydain Chronicles
Akira the manga
Hellboy short stories
some Lovecraft
I also really love the original novel of Kiki's Delivery Service (Majo no Takkyuubin) but I've never read it in English.

Also of course there are many, many books which by other criteria could be considered SF, like Haruki Murakami or Borges. But I think most of them would fail the "SF rules" test.

I have tried and disliked Pohl, Asimov, Herbert, Tolkein, etc. I'm sure that's my failing, but maybe they are not the best place to start. There's plenty of books that I liked but had something off-putting about them that would make them hard for me to recommend, like Stand On Zanzibar, which was way too sexist and had too much annoying 60s-futuristic fake slang.

I'm reading this thread with great interest and will hopefully find some great books to read from it.
Elio García
37. Egarcia
The number of people I've seen who start, "I don't really like fantasy, but A Game of Thrones..." is not inconsiderable. Some of those just read GRRM and aren't interested in anything else, but I've seen plenty of others who branched out into other literature.
Soon Lee
38. SoonLee
I think it depends a lot on the non-SF reader and careful consideration of their tastes is needed. I've had success with Connie Willis ("To Say Nothing of the Dog" & "Passage") and Mary Doria Russell's "The Sparrow".
Birgit
39. birgit
Start them with a good movie from a book. I'd been trying for years (decades! !) to get my mom to read The Hobbit, but getting her to see the LotR movie was easier. Also Harry Potter, of course.

My mother is the only one in the family who doesn't read SF. She never got beyond the first dwarf song in The Hobbit, but she has seen the LotR movies (and will probably see the Hobbit movies, too). She also sees the Harry Potter movies but doesn't read the books (I have to explain to her what she doesn't understand because the movies leave out so much).
Oran Kelley
40. omega_n
I am going to preface this with " Why don't we celebrate our differences?" Just a thought. /English major.

That said, I find that urban fantasy can be a very good subgenre for anyone who's afraid of elves and Tolkien. Charles De Lint's short stories are varied, poetic, have wonderful characters (esp. women. The man writes women better than some women I know), and are, most importantly, short. Neil Gaiman is fairly well-known at this point, so handing over some of his works never hurts, though there's always a chance that they'll absolutely hate him, since Gaiman seems to inspire either complete adoration or utter detestation in even genre readers.

Terry Pratchett can do no wrong, and laughter breaks most barriers.

If your target is a literary type, then let them see the ghosts as both real and metaphorical. Let them analyze to their heart's content--you might learn something. Ursula Le Guin is based very much in a lot of gender theory, and there's a lot of colonial discourse running through historically-based Steampunk. Books that have won Hugo and Nebula awards tend to have that literary quality that will allow a lit major to read into them.

But if they aren't into it, then leave them alone, or, even, try reading some of their literature.
Oran Kelley
41. ChiDy
This is always a tough question. the author is correct, it really depends on the person- their age, literacy level, preferences in reading, how much time they have to read, etc. i'm thinking about the times i've turned non-SF readers on to something, which hasn't been often for me, as the majority of my friends and family are already SF people.

I've had really good luck with Sherri Tepper's "The Gate to Women's Country." book club type women who don't even think about SF generally have loved it.

"wraeththu" by storm constantine has worked for my gay friends (i'm queer). i have some very flighty, "i only read french poetry and haute couture magazines" friends that loved that book.

for the literary snobs, i've had good results with Gene Wolfe's Book of the New Sun. "shadow of the torturer" is perfect for these types, as it leaves the reader hanging at the end, and it's such a literary tour de force that they almost always have gone on to read the rest of the series.

i'm big into politics, and so dystopian sci-fi always interests me, and i've been able to get some of my political friends to enjoy Octavia Butler's work, esp "Parable of the Sower."

i've noticed my game playing and gearhead friends really like end of the world disaster type books like "Lucifer's Hammer."

i don't have children, but there are so many comic books and YAL sci fi out there these days, i'm hardly worried the next
generation won't have a strong taste for sci fi. "Avatar" alone would've done that, if movies like "The Matrix" and LOTR weren't as popular as they are.
Adrienne Martini
42. martinimade
I don't have a suggestion to add, since the above are worthies all. But I am simply amused that the phrase "Tachyon Guy" has become shorthand, much like "Tachyon Drive."
Oran Kelley
43. joelfinkle
You can edge into SF from thrillers: An example would be Dean Ing's aerospace skunkworks stories, such as "Ransom of Black Stealth One" -- reads like hard SF, but it's just a thriller-type story.

Literary authors such as Dan Simmons is another way in: Summer of Night reads like Steven King rewriting Dandelion Wine, and then you can say, "He's got a bunch of books about those characters all grown up too."

I've had good luck handing Bellwether (Connie Willis) to people in Dilbert-jobs.

William Gibson's recent works e.g. Pattern Recognition are close enough to a stylistic modern novel that you could get somebody hooked there.

Unfortunately, though, if you get a "mundane" to go to the SF section of a bookstore, they'll usually walk out with a sharecropped book from a TV series.
Oran Kelley
44. CarlosSkullsplitter
Hate to be the devil's advocate here, but when I follow these discussions I always see the same books recommended, both as favorites and as gateway books for non-SF readers.

But most of the people I know have read and enjoyed some science fiction. They don't obsessively read in the genre, true. Why should they?

On the other hand, whenever I follow these discussions, I don't see people breaking away from their comfort zone tastes. It's always SF, SF-like mysteries, SF-like historical novels, and books that can be read like those things.

I suspect the insularity in reading tastes is not where people are assuming it to be.
Oran Kelley
45. Jordo
I literally stumbled into SF/F. I was at a bookstore wandering aimlessly and wasn't watching where I was going and knocked a book off the shelf.

That book turned out to be Pawn of Prophecy David Eddings' Belgariad. I picked it up and read the prologue. Being predisposed to Greek myth, the idea of gods as characters in a book appealed to me.

That was many years ago and that was my gateway drug.

I love Eddings for the same reason many people do not. Yes, everything he writes is the same. But I take comfort in that. It's my security blanket. I also enjoy other more complicated stuff, but I find myself coming back and rereading Eddings often.

My tastes in Fantasy have led me to
Jordan,
Goodkind,
George RR Martin,
Ursula Le Guin (her Earthsea books were like another Gateway drug),
Tolkien (including the Silmarillion = not recommended for the faint of heart but I was determined to get through it because I loved its mythic qualities),
Guy Gavriel Kay's Fionavar Tapestry

... among many others.

Sorry for this long post.

One last thought. I'd recommend Tad Williams' Tailchaser's Song which is a Watership Down for cats instead of rabbits.
Emily Trump
46. Parcae
I don't think there's such a thing as a gateway book.

I mean, for many of the people I've introduced to SF, it was easy. Find an age-appropriate good book that dovetails with their interests, hand it to them, and stand back. Many of the books mentioned in this thread are great, and are capable of inspiring an obsession if the person is ever going to like SF.

But I've known other readers who, even if you find them The Perfect, Life-Changing Book, will simply go back to reading what they really like. I've tricked my mother into reading a lot of SF over the years, but at the end of the day, she loves detective novels, and Ursula Le Guin wasn't going to turn her into a SF fan any more than Dorothy Sayers turned me into a mystery lover.

My mother asked me once when I started loving fantasy, thinking she could blame it all on David Eddings. But as I told her, I read Eddings because I loved Tamora Pierce and Susan Cooper, who were recommended to me by a sympathetic librarian when all the Bruce Coville books were checked out, and... back and back it went until I was remembering the book of fairy tales my grandparents read to me when I was four.

My mother then threw up her hands, and explained that honestly, it had all started before I was born, when her then-new husband had taken her to see 2001: A Space Odyssey, "and I didn't divorce him, even though it was a really, really stupid movie."

There was no one SF book that changed my life, because almost any decent book would have done. I was just born to be a SF fan.
Dominic Wellington
47. riotnrrd
Kaylams @33:
I've found the fastest way to get an Austen fan to love fantasy is to give them "Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell." It's almost guaranteed they'll love it.


I have a counterexample: my wife adores Austen, but she *hated* _Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell_. In fact, IIRC her words were "Two hundred pages and the story hasn't even started? This is worse than _The Lord of the Rings_!", followed by a loud !THUD! as the book hit the floor (it is rather large, even as my books go).

In case it is not clear from the above, she isn't a LotR fan either, although she did buy me the Extended Edition DVDs.
Benjamin Scott
48. thunderhammer
Ender's Game really is the best way to get people into SciFi. It is true that the story does not hold up well to analysis (Ender is basically what every kid imagines himself to be - a perfect angel super-genius who never does anything wrong yet is hated and blamed by everyone. He had no choice but to kill those two kids in self defense, and break that one kid's arm, and annihilate an entire alien species).

But Ender's Game is a good gateway to Dune, and once they've read Dune, either they're hooked or it was never meant to be.
Chris Taylor
49. Sidereal
CarlosSkullsplitter @44

"I suspect the insularity in reading tastes is not where people are assuming it to be."

I don't doubt that SF genre readers can be insular -- even within the genre there are some sub-fields I rarely read. But I suspect that the degree of insularity is likely less that with readers in other areas, both within genre and cross-genre.

But for me, the larger issue about "gateway" books is to:

1) help friends and family develop more shared experiences with me by sharing with them things I enjoy; and

2) supporting the SF field so that writers whose work I enjoy can write more of that work that I enjoy.
David Dyer-Bennet
50. dd-b
You allude to this somewhat when you discuss "Tachyon guy" again here, but I suspect for a lot of people the actual issue is figuring out what drives them away from SF, and finding SF books that do not have that thing. This is hard, since you have to find what that specific person has been driven away from SF by in the past. However, if they know they don't like it, they ought to be able to tell you why. A book with things they like won't work if it also has the thing they can't accept.

Books that drew huge numbers of people into the genre are good places to look, it seems like. This would mean that Tolkien has to be a leading candidate; unless, in fact, he's become so canonical that everybody already knows whether or not they like him.

Sad as it makes me, I've had a number of reports of young women bouncing off most classic SF because of the sexism inherent in the universes portrayed. Perhaps later they can appreciate that Heinlein's universes were LESS sexist than most of his contemporaries; but that's not the way to initially hook a lot of them.
Avram Grumer
51. avram
I think a lot of non-SF readers have trouble making the mental leap necessary to read something set in the distant future or an invented world. If you look at the three big recent SF genre successes -- Rowling's Harry Potter books, Meyers's Twilight series, and Brown's The Da Vinci Code and sequels (which are sort of borderline SF genre) -- they're all set in contemporary times, in the real world, and all reveal mysterious genre stuff going on behind the surface of that world.

Which makes me think I might have to start pushing Tim Powers books on my family.
Sam Kelly
52. Eithin
Depends also on what sort of SF you're trying to get them into - the field's fragmented enough that nobody can agree on one canon, and presenting them with (say) Heinlein or Pournelle as central works in the field (or, to be fair, Butler or Tepper) is decidedly unfair. Personally, I try and think of it in terms of introducing people and particular books to each other, rather than pushing genres, and while there are plenty of SF books I'll recommend there are a lot of non-SF ones too.

CarlosSkullsplitter at 44: Someone mentioned To Say Nothing of the Dog above, and I've seen that used as a gateway drug to get people hooked on Jerome, Grahame, Wodehouse, Christie, and Sayers. I find that it also makes a perfect counterpart to Tom Stoppard's play Arcadia, which is SF if you squint at it, but equally plausibly not. Steven Brust's Khaavren romances lead to Dumas - I'd hesitate to say one was better than the other, but they're at the very least equally interesting and fun.

Galileo's Dream is a really good introduction to the history of science and technology for fiction-only readers, and so is Stephenson's Baroque Cycle.

avram @ 51: Most literature, overall, is set in times or places that aren't late-modern majority-white urban areas, but that's where most of us live. So I think that it's a fairly basic skillset to be able to read about other cultures, and not an SF thing. Obviously, some people (non-readers generally, I suspect) don't have it, but I don't believe that being more flexible and being an SF fan are correlated.
Oran Kelley
53. jdsgirlbev
For me it started with Alan Garner's The Weirdstone of Brisingamen and follow-up The Moon of Gomrath, and these are what I suggest when parents ask me for "Harry Potter like" books for young kids.

You can't go wrong with Susan Cooper's The Dark is Rising sequence for teens. Barbara Hambly's The Darwath Trilogy is one of my favorites. These are all more Fantasy than Sci-Fi, but that's where I lean anyway.
Avram Grumer
54. avram
Eithin, who said anything about "being more flexible"? Most SF fans I know are pretty rigid about some matters, and flexible about others, just like most non-SF fans.
Justin Adair
55. Hobbyns
I would definitely recommend something like George R. R. Martin's Song of Ice and Fire series to someone who didn't read the genre. Until later in the series it doesn't have many explicit fantastical elements, and by the time those elements are more apparent I'd say the reader would be hooked.

The Raw Shark Texts by Steven Hall - This book is a fave of plenty of friends of mine who wouldn't touch "genre" with a ten-foot pole.

The Book Thief by Markus Zusak - Another fave of some of my friends who don't care for fantasy of any kind.

A few of Umberto Eco's books - For readers who feel they are too clever for fantasy.

The classic magic realism books of someone like Allende, Garcia Marquez, or even Murakami are always good jumping off points, as there are definitely genre books that a non-genre reader would enjoy reading if they liked some of these authors works. It's Australia day here and I'm too lazy to dig up the actual titles though. Perhaps later.
Oran Kelley
56. WolfLahti
For the literary types, anything by Richard Powers would probably be well received. (No one would consider him light reading!) Though you won't find his novels on many SF lists, such titles as Galatea 2.2 and The Goldbug Variations certainly qualify as much as or moreso than anything by Wells or Leguin.

I'm surprised no one else has mentioned John Crowley, one of the best (and, sadly, under-appreciated) writers in any genre today. Little Big and his "Aegypt" series deserve a spot on anyone's bookshelf.
Oran Kelley
57. qiihoskeh
Gateway, of course! (q retreats to safe location)
Oran Kelley
58. houseboatonstyx
There can be a sort of training wheel effect when a book has the strong, recognizable structure of a more familiar genre, eg the early Harry Potter books, or FARTHING.
DUANE SWAB
59. Qtip6
@57, I love Pohl, but not sure the fragmented storyline and multiple destinations would be easy for a non-SF reader.
Oran Kelley
60. houseboatonstyx
For someone who likes Austen but wants something short, try SOULESS (via Heyer if necessary).
DUANE SWAB
61. Qtip6
The one book that convinced my friends in Book Group to read SF was "A Canticle for Liebowitz" by Walter Miller, Jr. Like "The Sparrow" it is written in a literary style, and doesn't feel like a juvenile adventure story. It also raises questions of the power of literacy and changing mores towards education, as witnessed most tragically among inner city youths.
Also Ray Bradbury's classic "Fahrenheit 451" can help diminish the disdain many feel for genre works.
Clark Myers
62. ClarkEMyers
"what books people have used to successfully turn other people on to SF?"

I don't see the question answered much.

When it is it seems to be case of likeminded people already in some sort of relationship be it friend or family one of whom likes some particular book and expects the other to be of similar taste.

When the question is begged it seems to be of similar form without any specific second party - that is: here is a book I like so the whole world will like it.

Along those lines I'd suggest starting with Kim and going on to Heinlein's Citizen of the Galaxy or start with Eco's Name of the Rose and going forward on the assumption that SF reading skills are developing.

I suspect the suggested reading lists for the U.S. military have led many to keep reading in the field - IIRC one of Dr. Pournelle's books was reviewed as just the thing to read during some particular armored training - and David Drake personally chose Horace for much the same place but a different purpose.

I've never tried to turn people on to SF - people who aren't into SF turn me off and that's the end of it.
Daniel Brown
63. I_Slap_Raptors
My older sister, who as a teenager read nothing but Sweet Valley High novels, was successfully turned into a fantasy reader by the ten year old me handing her a copy of A Spell for Chameleon by Piers Anthony. We both read our Chadbourn, Abercrombie or Martin and shake our heads at our youthful reading choices now, but it was a gateway for both of us.

Pure SF has been far less successful, though. The closest she's ever gotten is the Pern novels by Anne McCaffrey and that's mostly due to my sister's dragon fetish. I don't know why, but fantasy seems an easier gap to bridge for non-genre readers; possibly because we're almost all a little bit pre-conditioned by fairy tales as infants.
Oran Kelley
64. qiihoskeh
@59: true enough, but Gateway does have drugs in it :)
steve davidson
65. crotchetyoldfan
Wow! Thanks for the mention Jo! (Good stuff here, almost every day!)
Oran Kelley
66. Jeff Dougan
Harry Blackstone Copperfield Dresden. Start'em with Summer Knight; have'em pick up the first 3 after reading #6.
Linden Wolfe
67. Lilith
My own gateway to a life-long love of SF was a couple of books foisted on me by a guy I had a huge crush on, in about 1975. The crush is important because I disliked the few other SF books I'd tried over the years (loved SF movies, though) and only read them because I wanted to impress him.

The books were Stranger in a Strange Land and Lord of Light and they changed my life.
Oran Kelley
68. EditorKirk
I've recommended Jack McDevitt's Alex Benedict series to a lot of "non-believers" with unanimous success. Jim Butcher's stuff is pretty straightforward, too.
Oran Kelley
69. Angelincamelot
I have friends in their 30's & 40's. My first book to them is always "Kushiel's Dart" by Jacqueline Carey...Myths, sexy, strong, AND a female protagonist!
Oran Kelley
70. Steamdave
In no particular order:
. John Crowley, Little Big
. Roger Zelazny, Lord of Light
. Fritz Leiber, Our Lady of Darkness
. Kim Stanley Robinson, The Years of Rice and Salt
. Charles DeLint, Dreams Underfoot
. Tim Powers, The Drawing of the Dark
. Barry Hughart, Bridge of Birds

Oh, and Arthur C. Clarke, The Fountains of Paradise (because you have to have some hard sf in the mix).

If they do not get hooked after any two of these, they are probably dead.
Dan Reifsnyder
71. studiolicio
At last count I've given away (I don't lend any more, too hard getting books back!) 13 copies of "War For The Oaks" (Emma Bull) to folks with no background in SF/F. The universal question when they're done is "Did she ever write a sequel to this?" Are you listening, Emma? :)

From there it's an easy trail to follow... Charles de Lint, Borderland (who DIDN'T write a story for this series?), Jim Butcher, Neil Gaiman, Mercedes Lackey, et al.

For SF, I'd say hit 'em when they're young with Andre Norton (Alice Mary Norton in the Fantasy world) and they'll never look back. I read "The Stars are Ours" in 5th grade and that was it for me.
Karolína Košťáková
72. Awaris
I'm currently experimenting with Perdido Street Station and so far it seems to work.. I can tell people it's also about social integration and stuff.. and they're more likely to read it,even though it's so long:)
Oran Kelley
73. George Akin
To get my sister-in-law interested, I gave her a list of the Hugo and Nebula award winners. I pointed out my five or six favorite book in each. She liked everyone of my suggestions (some more than others). And then I listed some favorites in different catagories. I told her, "Anything by Heinlein, Asimov, or Clarke." For women authors, I selected Connie Willis and her "Doomsday Book" and Tepper's "Beauty." For a BMO, I bought her Niven's "Ringworld." For psychology in SF, I pointed her toward Pohl's "Gateway." For end of the world stories, I suggested Niven and Pournelle's "Lucifer's Hammer" and Stewart's "Earth Abides." For series, I led her to Asimov's "Foundation" series and Bujold's Vorkosigan saga. For alternate history, I had her read Stirling's "Dies the Fire" series (she's from Oregon and loved it). Because I have very warm spot in my heart for it, I suggested she read Steele's "Coyote" series and anything by Jack McDevitt. Finally, just for fun I pointed her to Heinlein's and Andre Norton's juveniles. His "Red Planet" and her "The Stars Are Ours" are the first two SF book I read (I was 8 or 9) and I've been hooked ever since.
Michael Mair
74. Nightwind
I usually lend books to people based on discussions or books I borrowed from them.
Off the top of my head, these were books by David Gemmell (Waylander, Morningstar, Knights of Dark Renown), Jane Lindskold (Through Wolf's Eyes), Walter Moers (13 1/2 Lives of Captain Bluebear; I don't know how good the English translation is), Terry Pratchett (The Last Hero), Elizabeth Moon (Speed of Dark, Remnant Population).
In some cases, this went from non-fiction to other books of the same author (Douglas Adams' Last Chance to See is an excellent book to give away) or to SF / Fantasy books (from Steven Runciman's A History of the Crusades to the Memory, Sorrow and Thorn trilogy by Tad Williams via a remark about Prester John).
tatiana deCarillion
75. decarillion
I've given up on converting my friends to my faves but your post made me remember how I got my son hooked--not only on reading but on scifi/fantasy, as well.

I have always loved to read and, when my son was young, I found it annoying that he didn't love it the way I did LOL

So, in the summer between his 8th and 9th grade, I gave my son the first book of The Chronicles of Amber, at the suggestion of friends. He devoured it, and I bought the remaining books, which he promptly flew through--and loved. That started him on doing a lot of extra-curricular reading.

I couldn't get him to read his 'summer reading' for school but, at least I got him to read!

(I should mention that he did go on to get his PhD :P)
Oran Kelley
76. Adaml223
I got my mom to read Outrageous Fortune. She couldn't get into TWoT, but she's more open to Sci-fi that's surreal or funny like The Hitchhiker's Guide or OF. Same with my wife, but I like reading the books to her, currently I'm reading her Good Omens.
Oran Kelley
77. padmehlc
@ dd-b @ 50 - I agree, when you find out what turns a person off to reading something you can find something else - or even another format - that they may like. I found out that my sister didn't like reading SFF - even though she loves the movies and TV shows in the genre - because it was too hard for her to read the names and she would lose the story trying to decode them. So we got her books on CD of the SFF we thought she would enjoy and she devours them. With a couple of the series she has even read them now in real book format. Once she heard someone else saying the names and could read along with the CD to put the spelling of the names to the sounds, she could and would read the rest of the series.

I've also found that shorter is better. Big books are intimidating if you aren't sure you will like it - esp for people that feel compelled to finish any book they start. Its hard to face dragging through a long book you don't like compared to giving a whole small book a chance.

That being said A Wrinkle in Time by Madeline L'Engel was my first SFF (and I have now read all but the last in that series - that one is sitting on my to be read shelf in a pretty close position now and only came out a couple years ago; which considering it can take a book a couple of years to work its way from the bottom of the pile as I can't leave B&N with less than a couple hundred dollars of books it seems). My first epic fantasy was the Riddlemaster of Hed Trilogy by Patricia McKillip, it wasn't too far fetched for someone new to the genre and each individual book is short enough to not be intimidating (not that you need to tell them there are 3 when you give them the first one!).
Oran Kelley
78. nnat
I personally like series, because if you can hook them with one book, you've got them for at least a few more, and at the end they'll be panting for something else to read too.

For those of you who worry about young girls being turned off by sexism, I would suggest Tamora Pierce. She always features strong heroines. If you're worried about the sexier parts (which upon rereads really aren't that involved, but I had some problems with them when I was a kid), keep them to the Circle of Magic Quartet to begin with.

I understand that Tolkein in the Lord of the Rings can be a little too...long/involved for some. I personally couldn't finish the Return of the King until the movies came out and I made myself do it before I watched them. However, The Hobbit is a much more compact novel, and I think the book that really thrust me into the epic quest scene. The great thing is you don't need to read any other Tolkein to understand it, it can stand alone. I read it before the movies took off, and for 3 years after reading it I didn't even know any other Tolkein existed!

I find the biggest turnoff for a lot of people (like my mother) is when books (especially epic fantasy) have too many characters and the plot gets too complicated or there are too many POV swaps. Sadly, I'll never get to share WOT with her. One trilogy that might work for people like that is Farsala - there are only 3 main characters the POV switches between, and it's a pretty easy read but still mamages to captivate to the end.

Of course, for Sci Fi you have to go with Ender's Game. I read it in 6th grade and was HOOKED. I now own all of the Ender and the Bean books.

For younger Sci Fi readers: Animorphs. Yes, there's a lot of them, but they're really easy reads and a good introduction to aliens and advanced technology.

If you want stand-alone novels, Spindle's End and Crown/Court Duel (in the combined book) worked for my sister, who's not a series person. She also read Ender's Game, but not any of the rest.

Lastly (I know, I've gone on too long), I agree that McCaffrey is good, but I'm surprised none of you recommended the Pegasus books. I have a friend who thought Pern was a little too out there, but the Pegasus books are still on Earth, and the "magic" isn't the wizards of fantasy, it's just like ESP and stuff.

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