Tue
Dec 15 2009 4:44pm
“Dzur stalks and blends with night”: Steven Brust’s Dzur

Dzur is definitely my favourite Vlad book and one of my favourite of all books. It begins with a visit to Valabars, the famous Eastern restaurant in Adrilankha, which has been mentioned since Jhereg but never seen before. This visit to Valabars frames and shapes the book, each chapter begins with a description of a course. Here we have grown up mature Vlad, with Lady Teldra by his side, no longer an assassin but back in Adrilankha, solving a small-scale mystery. This book is set in the main continuity, it begins mere minutes after Issola. We get to see most, if not all, of the ongoing characters of the series. As well as Valabars, there’s another thing that’s been mentioned in various contexts and turns up for the first time here. Brust’s on absolute top form in Dzur. It’s a delicious book and I love it.

I think this might be a good place to start the series. It would certainly make you want to read the others to catch up, but I think it would work as an introduction. Besides, there’s the meal in Valabars. Don’t read this if you’re hungry, or if you have no expectation of eating good food soon. Also, this might not be as much fun if you hate food. I don’t identify with Vlad much, but he says at one point in Dzur “I’m a fair cook, I’m a superb eater” and oh, me too.

I’ve had another thought about reading order, by the way. When the books are finished, it will be possible to read them in Cycle order, and that reading might have its own interest and benefits. I’ll look forward to trying it.

I was so deeply absorbed in this book that when I read the description of Valabars mushroom and barley soup and the way Vlad can’t make it exactly the same at home because there’s something he’s just not getting, I wanted to email him and suggest that he try just a tiny bit of nutmeg, going in when the mushrooms do. I didn’t want to email Steve Brust to suggest this, though that would be a much more practical proposition, I wanted to email Vlad. Also, I’m allergic to peppers, so I found myself wishing that Brust had made up a Dragaeran name for “Eastern red pepper” so I could pretend it was some fantasy thing that wouldn’t make me ill, instead of just thinking “Well, you could just leave that out and it would be fine.”

Vlad certainly behaves like a Dzur, stalking and striking and taking risks—not just being in Adrilankha at all, but rushing in to Verra’s halls, and the confrontation at the end. Sethra says Dzur can tell the difference between strategy and tactics and Dragons can’t, and we do see Vlad recognising the difference and changing plans as required. The member of House Dzur is Vlad’s dinner companion Telnan, who’s young and cheerful, has a great weapon and who will one day be called Zungaron Lavode. Oddly enough, House Dzur is one of the houses we’ve seen most of before their book. Not only is there Tazendra in the Paarfi books, but there’s the Dragon/Dzur revenge in Jhereg, there are the Dzurlords who go charging up Dzur Mountain, there’s Sethra, who seems to be a Dragon/Dzur hybrid though nobody would mention that, and there are a number of jokes about how many Dzurlords it takes to sharpen a sword. So I was if anything expecting more rushing in than there is—not that there’s not plenty.

As for ongoing mysteries and revelations, Mario walking up to the table is priceless. Mario’s been considered a legend, he makes his appearance in Five Hundred Years After, and now here he is, quietly walking up and having a conversation, doing an assassination, still alive, still Aliera’s lover, still the best. The pacing on this one is brilliant. I could never write a series like this because I couldn’t wait for nineteen years and ten Vlad books to pull off something this cool, it would keep me awake nights with excitement.

The other thing is Vlad finding out about the existence of Vlad Norathar—we’ve known about him since Orca but Vlad hasn’t. The book ends with the expectation of Vlad meeting his son and then going to Valabars again. I was just saying that this is grown up Vlad, and it occurs to me that being a father, having a role as a father, would be the next thing for that. I don’t see how he can manage it though, not if he can’t be in Adrilankha.

The thing I like least is Verra messing with Vlad’s memory. I don’t mind unreliable narrators, but I hate characters not remembering things they used to remember, and I was afraid it was going there. However, what we seem to have is a great big excuse for a retcon of any events of Taltos that Brust wants to change. I’d rather have an excuse than have books contradict each other, and if they have to they have to—there’s been surprisingly little of that. All I can think of is the sudden existence of wheeled transport in Dragon when the specific absence of it is mentioned in Phoenix, and the bit with Morrolan saying he was with Zerika at the top of the cliff, when according to Paarfi he was not in Piro’s party. Anyway, the memory problems stopped being a problem with me after Vlad did his Dzur-like dash to confront Verra about them. Brust may be cheating with this, but he’s cheating in style.

Onwards to Jhegaala.


Jo Walton is a science fiction and fantasy writer. She’s published eight novels, most recently Half a Crown and Lifelode, and two poetry collections. She reads a lot, and blogs about it here regularly. She comes from Wales but lives in Montreal where the food and books are more varied.

37 comments
Kate Nepveu
1. katenepveu
This is the one where he doesn't personally kill anyone. Where he thinks what a Dzur would do and then _doesn't do it_, unlike _Dragon_.

I love it because it really shows that he's growing up.
Jo Walton
2. bluejo
Kate: Very good point. He doesn't personally kill anyone, though he does get Mario to kill someone. Is this the only book where that is true? It seems that way on first glance.
Tex Anne
3. TexAnne
On Sethra being a hybrid: that makes a lot of sense. I'll have to pay attention to that the next time I reread.

On Telnan: there's a moment a few books ago where Sethra is referred to as the last of the Lavodes, and she says something like, "oh no, there's another one, but he isn't fully trained yet." I was absolutely positive that it would be Vlad. But alas, no such luck.
hawkwing_lb
4. hawkwing_lb
Dzur! Telnan! Mario!

...I'm sorry, I really have nothing else to add.

Apart from the food. It makes you hungry, that book.
jon meltzer
5. jmeltzer
Ah, Telnan. I keep expecting him to ask Vlad to pass the cheese dip. :-)
Beth Friedman
6. carbonel
I don't suppose it'd make you any happier to have "Eastern red pepper" called "paprika," but that's what I assume it is.
hawkwing_lb
7. aleistra
I've always thought that Sethra was a survivor of one of the pre-Empire tribes that didn't make it to be a House, rather than a crossbreed, or even predating the firm definition of the tribes.
hawkwing_lb
8. ron avi tzur
After reading Dzur I was driven to experiment with lángos recipes. I don't think I got the oil temperature just right, though.
Christopher Turkel
9. Applekey
This is my favorite post Phoenix book (Am I the only one who divides the Vlad saga into pre and post Phoenix?). I'm not a food geek so the food descriptions didn't do much for me.

This book shows a changed Vlad. He's different now, in small and large ways which serve to keep the series interesting.

I really like Telnan. He's a dim candle like Savn but fun and interesting, unlike Savn, and one of my favorite secondary characters. I hope we get to see him again.
Kate Nepveu
10. katenepveu
Jo, it's certainly true of the books up to _Dzur_; I have read an ARC of _Iorich_ but I can't remember because I did too much late-night reading.

I mean, yeah, hiring Mario is not really *that* much of a leap on the moral scale, but still, it's something. And I just adore the contrast from _Dragon_.

(Also, Mario! Telnan!)
john mullen
11. johntheirishmongol
What I really enjoyed about this was seeing Mario again, since I really didn't expect to, and that he and Aliera still had a thing. I think Vlad is still Vlad but I realized I must have leant out my copy and now I am aggravated. This is why I dont lend books often
hawkwing_lb
12. Michael Alan Dorman
As I noted in the comments to the review of _Jhereg_, there's a line at the beginning of Chapter 15 of that book that reads, "Maybe I should arrange to forget most of this."

I seriously wonder if SKZB has a deeper plan.

Or maybe he just got lucky. Got a few more books to go to be sure.
Julian Augustus
13. Alisonwonderland
Applebee@9:
I really like Telnan. He's a dim candle like Savn but fun and interesting, unlike Savn, and one of my favorite secondary characters. I hope we get to see him again.

That's an interesting observation ... I didn't see any resemblance of Telnan to Savn at all, except the dimness, as you said. Actually, I thought Telnan was very much Tazendra, except for the change in gender.
Avram Grumer
14. avram
Here's the thing I was going to bring up in discussion of a previous book, but I noticed it while reading Dzur. Vlad occasionally acts as if his reader/listener hasn't read/heard his other stories (emphasis added):

Page 34: "I removed the chain from around my neck (long story), slid it into a small box I carry just for that purpose, and nodded to the Dzur."

Page 123: "There is a god named Trout who dwells in the Halls of Judgment. I know he's there, because I've seen him, but that's another story."

Page 147: " after years of wandering around the countryside, completely out of touch with everyone except the occasional emotionally damaged Teckla (there's a story there, but skip it), "


It's as if Vlad is narrating to a different person, or doesn't know what order the stories will wind up in or if they'll all get through.
John S Costello
15. joxn
Vlad didn't kill anyone if you don't count the fact that he used a Great Weapon to destroy the soul of an attacker early on in the book, causing him great grief later.
Tikitu de Jager
16. tikitu
Jo, again you convince me to find these books... but I'm still not sure where to start!

Might it be possible to post a summary, when you're through the series as it stands, of suggested starting points? I'm thinking of a single post saying "If you start here you'll want to read back, but if you start here you'll get spoiled for everything" and so on? You've been peppering your posts with this sort of thing but for someone who doesn't recognise the names, losing the overview happens pretty quickly.
Maiane Bakroeva
17. Isilel
Hm... interesting. I didn't love "Dzur" as much as many here seem to. The whole "must save Cawti _yet again_" begins to wear mighty thin for me. If the woman is that incompetent, she should just stop. Or try something else.

Re: Savn, I actually rather liked him. But then I generally like seeing larger than life characters from the more realistic POVs.
I am afraid that his lack of popularity is very much tied to him being a gentle, non-violent soul, unlike all the other somewhat major characters of the Vlad saga. Actually, it would have been interesting to see him grow into something more, IMHO. Only, well...

Telnan = Tazendra?! Not IMHO. I love Tazendra to bits, but Telnan is a complete cypher with some standard Dzur mannerisms.

Though it strikes me yet again that Brust really dropped the ball on believability of the continued survival of House Dzur.

I mean, between the fact that a Dzurlord must have been in at least a dozen of good fights to be even considered a marriage material, their fondness of heroic last stands and of challenging the wielders of Morganti/Great weapons and the frequency of star-crossed romances with members of other Houses (yes, I am re-reading the "Viscount"), any Dzur couple that actually manages to get together should produce a veritable litter of offspring for the House to to continue, long natural life-spans or not. I doubt that many Dzurlords die old and in bed anyway.

And BTW, given the Morganti issue, how is it that they don't run out of suitable souls? Sethra alone must have dispatched tons of Dzur souls with Iceflame.

Description of the dinner at Valabar's is pure poetry, of course.
Jo Walton
18. bluejo
Tikitu: You should start with Jhereg, the first in publication order, or with Taltos which comes chronologically first.
Jo Walton
19. bluejo
Avram: There are comments like that in others too, Dragon for instance, where it mentions the box, wondering if they've heard the previous ones, and Issola wondering if they're the same person who has heard the others. I think Vlad's telling the stories to a box, for money, and he doesn't know what happens to the box later except that he's sure it's going out of his world and nobody in his world will know what he says. I'd love to see a scene where he meets the aliens who explain this to him, and actually I wondered if it could be the Jenoine trying to get evidence about Dragaera, but that would be too straightforward.
Kate Nepveu
20. katenepveu
joxn, Vlad doesn't intend to kill the attacker with his Great Weapon, she does that herself. So no, I don't count that.
Christopher Turkel
21. Applekey
I liked Cawti but without her, there wouldn't be much plot in this book. I am pretty sure we'll see her again.
Maiane Bakroeva
22. Isilel
But Cawti's incompetence as plot generator is getting rather old, isn't it? I mean, Teckla, Phoenix, Dzur - how much more? Wasn't this woman supposed to be Vlad's opposite number? Why is she suddenly unable to do anything for herself?
Emmet O'Brien
23. EmmetAOBrien
Isilel@22: I am inclined to wonder how much of that is actual incompetence on Cawti's part and how much is Vlad perceiving Cawti as incompetent.
jon meltzer
24. jmeltzer
@23: Very perceptive comment.

Remember, Cawti had a higher rep with the Jhereg than Vlad did.
Jo Walton
25. bluejo
And Cawti's not trying to do what Vlad did/does, she's in the position of the Sicilian government trying to get rid of the Mafia, only without being a government.
Christopher Turkel
26. Applekey
Never found Cawti irritating or compelling. She was just..there. Maybe because she wasn't in that many of the books so i didn't develop any feelings one way or another for her.
hawkwing_lb
27. John Biltz
I've been reading this series since Yendi and recently reread them all, I would recommend the anthologies to start with, its the most inexpensive way. I bought them since my original older books were pretty trashed.

I divide the books into the Jhereg Years, Wandering the Earth (Yes, its not Earth but an apt description) and Great Weapon Vlad. Those are all great divisions in Vlad's life and more importantly how he views his world and himself. Having Lady Teldra is going to be a big change perhaps the biggest. He doesn't have a great weapon to take out Jhereg bosses. Bigger game is afoot, stuff you need a great weapon for. More importantly its not just a great weapon, its one of the big three magical devices in the universe according to an earlier reference. Spellbreaker as a dumb instrument stopped everything that came at it. Sentient, an Issola sentience to boot makes it a very subtle and powerful instrument.
Tikitu de Jager
28. tikitu
Jo, oh, that's easier than I had convinced myself it was going to be. Thanks! (And now... we wait for either to turn up secondhand, in English, in an Amsterdam bookstore...)
hawkwing_lb
29. eccentrich
@17: Don't forget that a Great Weapon isn't like a regular Morganti weapon; it doesn't have to destroy the soul unless it wants to. So we can presume Sethra has *not* been destroying the souls of all the Dzur she has been despatching over the years.
Alexx Kay
30. AlexxKay
It does seem that Vlad knows that these 'books' may be read out of order. Hmmm...

I have long wondered how anyone could have convinced Vlad that these recordings were safe to make. I had figured Sethra was probably behind it. But time travel could add an interesting wrinkle. At the first meeting between Vlad and the Box-owner -- that is, the first of those meetings from Vlad's point of view -- the Box-owner might have said something like, "I do eventually convince you that this is is safe, because in my time-line, you've already recorded several books for me -- here, have a listen."

Not that that actually constitutes proof of safety, but it might make Vlad's brain explode enough to not notice :-) And it would certainly account for Vlad's habit of treating each book as if it was independent of the others.
Jo Walton
31. bluejo
AlexxKay: I noticed you were thanked in Iorich for helping with continuity, so go you.

We were talking earlier about satisfying ends. Finding out who Vlad's been talking to would be a possibility for that.
David Dyer-Bennet
32. dd-b
Aleistra@7: I think of Sethra as more of a precursor to dragons and dzur, due to her going back to before the sorting and winnowing happened.
jon meltzer
33. jmeltzer
#32: Yeah; the "house" assignment is really not applicable to Sethra, because she's older than that.
hawkwing_lb
34. john Biltz
I don't want to know everything about Sethra and Dzur Mountain. Sure I ponder every clue but that is fun. She is great as a mystery. Did you really want to know the force worked with microscopic creatures that were present in all life. Sethra is like that. Whatever Brust says he is not going to satisfy everyone. Let Dzur Mountain keep its secrets, just leak a few along the way but keep the big ones.
Emmet O'Brien
35. EmmetAOBrien
John@34: I disagree, on the grounds that it seems likely to me that if he is interested in so doing Brust is capable of coming up with answers to the big mysteries that would be entirely satisfactory.
hawkwing_lb
36. mike.timonin
Now I need to go back and re-read. Except I think I loaned Jhereg to someone, and can't find it now. I must stop with your reviews here, because I have not read Jheghalla yet. And, hmmm, Christmas approaches, perhaps I should pick that up...
Alexx Kay
37. AlexxKay
Cool! I commented on a draft of it for him. Eagerly awaiting the finished product!

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