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Nov 13 2008 12:32pm
Fantasy of Manners

The defining texts of Fantasy of Manners are Ellen Kushner’s Swordspoint and Patricia Wrede and Caroline Stevermer’s Sorcery and Cecelia. By which I mean that almost everyone who tries to define Fantasy of Manners or who makes a list has the two of them on it.

Kate Nepveu, who is a terrific reviewer and a very bright person, has collected a list of posts about Fantasy of Manners which make very interesting reading. You can see me all over those posts saying they’re too broad to be useful or arguing individual books or trying to come up with a useful definition. It’s an interestingly thorny subject. You can also see me in one of those posts backing away from the idea that I’d actually written a fantasy of manners without noticing, which I now admit that I kind of did, if you don’t mind that all the characters are dragons. Oops.

Fantasy of Manners is a term like “science fiction”; it’s a circle you can draw and some things are definitely inside it and you can argue about edge-cases all day.

It seems to me that what’s appealing about Fantasies of Manners and what makes them look like a subgenre at all are the following: a certain wry tone, which can be described as influenced by Austen, Dunnett or Heyer; wit, certainly in dialogue and often in the narration; a fairly central romantic plot, and complications of emotion; a formal and layered society; a non-technological but post-medieval society; society; cities; layers of sophistication; a world recognisably not our world.

They also tend to be Romances, by the following definition:

When a writer calls his work a Romance, it need hardly be observed that he wishes to claim a certain latitude, both as to its fashion and material, which he would not have felt himself entitled to assume, had be professed to be writing a Novel. The latter form of composition is presumed to aim at a very minute fidelity, not merely to the possible, but to the probable and ordinary course of man’s experience. The former—while as a work of art it must rigidly subject itself to laws, and while it sins unpardonably so far as it may swerve aside from the truth of the human heart—has fairly a right to present that truth under circumstances to a great extent, of the writer’s own choosing or creation...

Nathaniel Hawthorne, Preface to The House of Seven Gables, quoted as the epigraph to A.S. Byatt’s Possession.

I wouldn’t want to attempt an exhaustive list and I’m hoping people will add to this, but here are some books I’ve read (or in one case, written) that I think will appeal to people who want to scratch a Fantasy of Manners itch.

Steven Brust, The Viscount of Adrilankha.

Barbara Hambly, Stranger at the Wedding.

Ellen Kushner, Swordspoint, The Privilege of the Sword, The Fall of the Kings.

Sarah Monette, Melusine, The Virtu, The Mirador.

Madeleine Robins, A Point of Honor, Petty Treason.

Melissa Scott and Lisa A. Barnett, Point of Hopes, Point of Dreams.

Sherwood Smith, Crown Duel/Court Duel.

Caroline Stevermer and Patricia Wrede, Sorcery and Cecelia, The Grand Tour, The Mislaid Magician.

Jo Walton, Tooth and Claw.

Patricia Wrede, Mairelon the Magician, Magician’s Ward.

Anyone want to suggest any more?

19 comments
OtterB
1. OtterB
I'd include Martha Wells's Element of Fire and Death of the Necromancer

You have several I like quite a bit, and a couple for me to go hunting - I haven't read the Brust.
OtterB
2. Tipa
Susanna Clarke's "Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell"?
OtterB
3. Swordspoint Fan
This is wonderful! Thanks for this list, and for the links to Kate Nepveu's discussions.

It's interesting: I had never thought of Sarah Monette's books as fantasies of manners before, but I can definitely see how they fit the genre as you've described it. I think Clarke's Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell also fits the bill. And I just picked up Emma Bull and Steven Brust's Freedom and Necessity -- I'm only about 10 pages into it, but so far it has many of the characteristics listed above. I'm even more interested now (or interested on a different analytical level) to see how it turns out!
[da ve]
4. slickhop
Patricia C. Wrede's children's books might also qualify ... the Dealing with Dragons series. They were favorites of mine years ago. Perhaps they lean a bit too comical/whimsical though?
OtterB
5. flynngrrl
I second the Dealing with Dragons series. It certainly counts on the formality angle, although a lot of the characters are rebelling against it. But I think a lot of the fantasies of manners feature characters that play against or push the boundaries of the rules - all the better to highlight them, I'd think.

Someone on an earlier thread mentioned some of Lois McMaster Bujold's Vorkosigan Saga as being science fiction of manners. Would her The Curse of Chalion or Paladin of Souls fit the fantasy of manners definition, since they're post-medieval but not hugely technological?
Mike Scott
6. drplokta
Alexei Panshin's Anthony Villiers books, Starwell and The Thurb Revolution (and sadly not The Universal Pantograph). Admittedly, they're set in a technological society, but apart from that they fit the definition perfectly.
Sherwood Smith
7. Sherwood
Some newer space opera is what I think of as science fiction of manners (wrote one myself):

Jane Emerson's City of Diamond

Debra Doyle and James D. Macdonald's Mageworld series (I wish these would hurry up and appear in Orb form, my copies are falling apart)

Madeleine Robins' Sarah Tolerance books

Susannah Clark's Jonathan Strange and Mr Norell

Elizabeth Willey's trilogy
Liza .
8. aedifica
Swordspoint Fan @ 3: It's been a while since I've read Freedom and Necessity, but from what I remember I think it would fit this genre description very well. I'll have to re-read it soon!
OtterB
9. OtterB
Adding to Sherwood's Science Fiction of Manners list, the Lee & Miller Liaden Universe books and much of Catherine Asaro's work

(and I love the Anthony Villiers series)

I think I find Freedom & Necessity an edge case. It belongs in many ways, but is somehow too ... serious?

And back in the fantasy realm, don't forget Lord Darcy.
OtterB
10. flynngrrl
I'd also nominate Robin McKinley's Chalice to the list of potentials. It's not a kaleidoscopic political landscape, but it's lovely.
Estara Swanberg
11. Estara
Sherwood Smith, A Posse of Princesses

Science Fiction of Manners:

Lois McMaster Bujold, A Civil Campaign (Vorkosigan series)

Doris Egan, The Complete Ivory (trilogy omnibus)
Bruce Cohen
12. SpeakerToManagers
Several of Patricia McKillip's novels seem to fit the definition: Od Magic, Solstice Wood, Ombria in Shadow, and Alphabet of Thorn are the ones I think of first (can you tell I really like her writing?).

I'm not sure, would Sheri Tepper's Marianne trilogy fit, or is there too much adventure and not enough formality in them?

As for Science Fiction of Manners, I'd have to say that The Stars My Destination was at worst an edge case; how can we completely rule out a story that retells The Count of Monte Cristo? Of course, there is also a considerable measure of Grand Guignol, which makes pigeon-holing the book very hard. And maybe Mellisa Scott's Five-Twelfths of Heaven* and its sequels counts too.

* I like the books, but I really love that title, which is the reason I bought the first book without even reading the cover blurb.
Bruce Cohen
13. SpeakerToManagers
My memory started bubbling when I read through Kate Nevpeu's list, and I did a facedesk and cried, "How could I forget Fritz Leiber and Jack Vance*?" And if War for the Oaks qualifies, then surely Linda Haldeman's Esbaë, and Last Born of Elvinwood do also.

* Trullian: Alastor 2262 popped out even though I haven't read it in almost 30 years.
Sol Foster
14. colomon
Can't believe no one has mentioned Caroline Stevermer’s A College of Magics and A Scholar of Magics yet!
OtterB
15. T Wessely
From the Aussie market, I wonder if the new K E Mills book "The Accidental Sorcerer" and Michael Pryor's Laws of Magic series (thus far Blaze of Glory, Heart of Gold, Word of Honour) count?
Estara Swanberg
17. Estara
Addendum:

Doris Egan and Jane Emerson are the same author, she now writes tv for the series House. She's on LJ as Tightropewalker.

I'd love for her to write more in any of her worlds, but it's pretty unlikely...
OtterB
18. MBG1968
I think Galen Beckett's "The Magicians and Mrs. Quent" would qualify.

Two others that came to mind:
Sylvia Townsend Warner's "The Kingdoms of Elfin" and possibly Vonda N. McIntyre's "The Moon and The Sun"?
OtterB
19. McDude
Tim Stretton's The Dog of the North has many elements of FoM - and indeed I believe he defines his own work in this way.

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