Recently, Tor.com user GUDsqrl posed this question in the comments section of a previous post of mine:
"So is paying to publish fiction and trying to recoup at least some of those costs by selling copies shortly going to be dead? Is all short fiction to be free?"
In my opinion, GUDsqrl has a vested interest in this question, as I believe he is part of the team (all of the team?) that publishes GUD, a literary genre fiction journal. I don't know a lot about them, I must confess. They've only had a handful of issues come out so far. They look well designed, and they have some interesting authors, so we'll see what the future holds for them. I'm sure that's at least part of why GUDsqrl asked his question.
This is one of those questions along the lines of how many grains of sand make a pile? It's all based on the interpretation of the individual. Generically speaking, I think short fiction will be around for the long haul. It's too well appreciated by the field to go anywhere. It may radically change, but it will be around.
For the purpose of this post, let's discuss some different levels of print magazines and how they work or don't work.
First, let's talk about what I do with Electric Velocipede: publishing a magazine and selling copies/subscriptions of that magazine and nothing else. I don't use any of my personal money for the magazine. It's all money that either the magazine generates, or that I make from freelance publishing work.
At the level I'm at--about 150 subscribers at two issues a year--there aren't enough subscribers nor enough issues to really generate any decent income through that avenue. Normally, a magazine has a steady stream of subscribers who need to renew. This in turn creates a steady stream of new money.
Traditionally, most newsstand magazines survive on advertising. They use their advertising revenue to pay for 75 - 90% of the costs of running the magazine. I do charge for advertising in the magazine, but that typically covers just the authors' payments. I don't reach a wide enough audience (yet) to justify charging enough in advertising to cover all my costs.
I do almost all of the work on the magazine myself. I'm at a saturation point for the number of issues I can get out in a year. This directly restricts the number of subscribers I have needed to renew at any given time. A subscription to Electric Velocipede is for four issues, i.e., two years. So twice a year I have a small amount of people needed to renew. And obviously, the more often I publish, the more often people need to renew.
I think I've said this before, even 20 new subscribers would make a big difference for me, much less a few hundred new subscribers. And a few thousand new subscribers? That would radically change things.
So let's consider magazines like Asimov's or Fantasy and Science Fiction (F&SF) or Realms of Fantasy or Weird Tales. Now we're talking about thousands of subscribers. Then you should have enough people constantly needing to renew (and if you've got good content, the bulk of them will renew) which will provide you with money to keep going. Each of these magazines comes out at least six times a year, which subsequently generates more renewals. Also, if you're reaching thousands of people, you can charge more for advertising. In the best scenarios, your advertising income pays for all your production costs.
Of course, all your total costs are higher (personnel, shipping, printing, etc.), but your unit costs all go down. It costs less per copy to print a few thousand than a few hundred. It costs less to mail a lot of copies versus a few individually. You may even be able to hire a fulfillment service who mails lots of things and gets an even bigger discount on mailing.* In theory, the more copies you make, the easier it is to make money on each issue.
And this trend continues as you add more and more subscribers. Of course, the bigger you get, the more likely it is that you'll need employees to keep on top of things. But, you should be able to afford help if you have 50,000 or 100,000 or 1,000,000 subscribers.**
As a new magazine, it's very hard to hit thousands of subscribers unless you have some sort of backing. Many of the magazines I mention are part of a larger publisher which helps make certain costs (printing and shipping being the biggest, but also the salaries of the production people) a smaller percentage of the total costs of running the magazine. But how many places are looking to start a new fiction magazine?***
F&SF is one of the few (only?****) places when it comes to bigger, print-only genre magazines. And F&SF has a history of almost six decades behind it. It came into being when fiction on the newsstand was big business. I think these days you need more than just fiction to get a magazine out on the newsstands/to subscribers with any sort of respectable numbers. So this probably isn't a viable option when starting out.
So what if instead of thousands of subscribers, you have other products you sell that help alleviate the cost of publishing a small magazine?
The quick example that springs to mind is Small Beer Press with Lady Churchill's Rosebud Wristlet (LCRW from here on out). Small Beer publishes interesting, high-quality books that help keep LCRW running. They do have a nice-ish amount of subscribers which helps, too. Having Kelly Link as part of the staff helps, too. And they co-edit the Year's Best Fantasy & Horror with Ellen Datlow, which puts their names out in front of a bigger audience than LCRW does.
This seems to be working for Gavin and Kelly at Small Beer. And if it's not working, they're not talking about it.
There are a lot of different scenarios in which people are publishing short fiction, some more successful than others. But I definitely think there's a reason why a lot of print publications, particularly new ones, are moving online. The costs in running a print magazine are high, both in money and time. And costs keep rising. My printing costs have doubled from two years ago. My shipping costs are up 10 - 15% from last year. Moving online would get rid of those expenses.
The problem with going online is that you still need some sort of revenue. You need to pay for your internet space. You need to pay your contributors. But if you're not selling something, where does the money come from?
And...that's a topic for another post.
*Let me know if you want a really boring discussion on shipping.
**I don't think there are any English language magazines that have a subscriber base in the millions, but who knows? It depends on whether you consider the Victoria's Secret catalog a magazine and its recipients subscribers. I know I get one of those every few days... Science Fiction World, a Chinese science fiction magazine, has a circulation of about 300,000, with a pass-along rate of 3 - 5, giving it a total readership of about one million.
***If you are, let's talk.
****I'm not sure what Interzone has for subscriptions, and they're not part of another publisher.
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday July 23, 2008 12:51am EDT
Too much extra work, etc.?
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday July 23, 2008 01:58am EDT
Hmm.
I think part of the issue is the print cycle of bi-annual. And I don't mean an offense, I hear what you're saying about putting in 110% and being time/energy limited.
People want quantity. It's a fact of American psychology and culture. They want more food on the plate than they can eat, their favorite TV show every.single.week, and their favorite song.on.demand.dammit!
Most of the start-up 'zines I've seen over the past couple of years that have survived, did so not on quality but quantity rather. That quantity was minimally a quarterly print cycle. Again, not saying, "John, you're doing this all wrong." Just my observational evidence.
Put your free stuff on the front page. And make sure you have subscription links below each free short-story. Psychological reciprocity: I gave you something, now you'll give me something. But put it in my face, the first thing I should see is: Here's some free AWESOME fiction from EV, if you like it there's more when you subscribe!
Where's your anthology? Collection of bests? With POD technology you should have a lulu.com(or other) link to the EV store with the best of, annual collection (including the free stuff; nevermind the ISBN unless you have the $99.00 to spare---and don't get me started on the Bowker monopoly right now...), and ... you have sold out issues in the digital POD age? I understand if you brought limited print rights from the authors but dude... POD and it cashes out directly to your PayPal.
I say go POD and give the consumer the option to chose digital or print. You have actual experience with handling subscriptions so your mileage probably varies---and I'm looking forward to hearing a response.
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday July 23, 2008 02:15am EDT
Maki over at DoshDosh has an article: Why Are You Giving Away Content for Free?, which is the perennial question asked of bloggers who spend so much time, especially the ones without big honking ads. It boils down to: building reputation and brand is necessary to move on to profitable ventures.
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I've never acquired electronic rights according to my contract (we're all using contracts, right?) which is an added wrinkle I've been avoiding. I suspect most authors would have no problems if I added an electronic rights clause to my contract, so it's probably not an issue for me.
It's unlikely that I would be able to sell electronic copies through a place like Fictionwise as I don't have enough titles for them to sell (they need 25 titles; if I offered everything I have, I only have 17 titles). LCRW is available electronically through Lulu; I'm not sure how that's working for them.
So, it would be best for me to sell my own electronic copies. I have no idea what I would need to do to create the files. I create PDFs to print the magazine, but a PDF isn't always the best format for an electronic copy. I'm sure if I did some looking I could figure how to make the files I need.
Or maybe there's someone out there who'd want to do the work for me?
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Why Are You Giving Away Content for Free?
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday July 23, 2008 02:54am EDT
May want to check sourceforge.net for additional (I'm all about the FREE open-source stuffs) converter software.
And what you may consider too, in "re-acquiring" print rights (if you choose to do the anthology or a 'best of' ) is offering royalties share/split. Gives authors an incentive to promote the material as well.
Under contract OF COURSE!
I just checked lulu and for ebooks there is an option to upload as .pdf then format for iPhone and Sony ebook reader as well. You can also put entire collections on CDs and have lulu distribute etc. There's a lot of different options, I had mentioned lulu because I was more familiar with it than other POD companies.
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday July 23, 2008 03:00am EDT
I realized today that I'm missing out by not making obvious links to the subscription page on the free fiction pages. I don't know how I feel about making the front page all about the free fiction. I see what you're saying, but I don't know.
As for the anthology... Let's just say more often than not, an anthology signals the end of a magazine. Maybe after I hit a milestone, like issue #20 I'll think about it. ;)
Besides, I only acquire First North American Rights from the authors, which revert back to the author fairly quickly. So, if I were to try to bring out-of-print titles back via POD or electronic means, I would have to reacquire the stories.
My problem with Lulu, and POD in general, is that an issue of the zine would cost more to produce through them than I charge total for the issue. If I went POD, my prices would go up. They would probably double, and I don't think that would benefit anyone. Maybe if I consider doing EV as an annual volume/anthology POD would make sense. But it doesn't make sense to me as a periodical.
Lots of good stuff to consider. When I started, POD was considered a joke. This is no longer the case. Electronic versions of things were also few and far between when I started. Now they are just part of the general course of things.
Definitely need to push my free fiction, and make sure that people can easily subscribe from those pages. I also need to consider electronic versions.
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday July 23, 2008 03:30am EDT
You don't have a need to be defensive. You've built a steady subscription and a good name off of a bi-annual publication.
Maybe what you can do is use the free fiction as a means to build your audience further. Instead of putting it out there all at once, pace it along. Once a week, month etc... (My thoughts are that buying web-only electronic rights would be less than first North-American print rights?). It gives people a want or need to come by the website more often and as you approach the 'zine print run you can increase the output(say go from monthly the first three months, then bi-weekly the next two, then the month prior to print run one new short-story every week). With of course: MORE AWESOMER STEAMPUNKEST FIKSHUN THAN YOU CAN HANDLE
With the POD stuff offer ecopies (with your modified contract for ePublishing rights) as well print copies after you've done your subcriber's run. This reduces the number of copies you have to pay out of hand for the print press (because you run exactly what you need plus a few extra) and let's your POD handle your back issues.
The cool thing about this is: POD WILL be more expensive than subscribing which gives your customers a further incentive to subscribe.
Another thought, and I'm not sure how it's worked for other venues (well, for adult sites it works great!) is offering exclusive electronic content. A small annual fee for access to special guest blogs, short stories, forums yadada yadada.
That may be something to build up to, or a marketing phase II kind of thing.
Wednesday July 23, 2008 05:08am EDT
@Blue/john - biannual is a tough sale, definitely. We intended to go to four issues, but haven't quite got the traction (and time has been a premium as well--more of a learning curve than we expected, given most of us had worked on a 4 issue/yr print mag prior). One thing we do to keep people coming back to the site is small press reviews (and raffles of said reviewed books). Beyond that, we keep a blog updated... but we know we need better blog content than just status updates.
Digital copies were a core part of our business model, but they haven't moved as well as we expected. People still buy more physical copies than digital--and while we don't encourage that with the price, we _do_ encourage that with paying a premium ourselves for quality paper/printing. I wish I could say the magazine was self-sustaining, but we're only 4 issues/2 yrs in.
Fictionwise--their "25 titles" rule is _not_ hard and fast. GUD sells via Fictionwise, and we've only got two issues up there so far. They have been our best sell-through outside of PDF sales on our own site. We've not really managed to sell much for the Kindle yet, nor through various other e-sales sites.
As for freebies... we do a pretty good job, I think, of getting our content out there (mostly to writers). Every account is given one story or poem from the current issue. (Join today and check it out? ;) ) We get a handful of new downloads every day. ((and with our near-release of our fourth issue, we gave a new freebie to every existing account)). But turning those into sales is another matter--for one, we are a bit of a niche market, putting out "literary/genre" fiction and poetry. For two... I don't know, really. I'm our marketing arm, and I'm not as cut out for it as I'd like. ;)
We're in the same boat so far as POD--we'd have to essentially double our cover price.
But as for quantity, @neutronjockey... two issues or four issues a year doesn't necessarily tell you how much the cup floweth over. We print 200 pages an issue @ roughly 350 words per page. Maybe 300 words per page on average if you take into account whitespace/ends of stories/poetry). A quick check says 68,000 words (of content, not including bios/etc) were in our second issue. :) People tend to be overwhelmed. But we don't seem to have a good way of letting folks know how much content there is. For example, here's the TOC for our fourth issue, overlain on a collage of the artwork for the issue.
But there's a lot to be said for greater frequency, just to keep it in front of people, and on their minds...
Y'all are cool. Anyone interested in a guest-spot on GUD's blog? ;) I'd especially LOVE a rant on the Bowker monopoly! I've had such a thing on my "blogposts to write" for some time and just haven't found the time.
Deep breaths... :)
Did I mention we're having an "Issue 3 pre-launch buzz contest"? Grand prize: all four issues of GUD to date (0-3), hardcopy. :)
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What we're trying to do at the moment is keep GUD going long enough to build up a subscriber base that'll help the magazine pay for itself. Most of the money that's gone into GUD so far has come from the staff, although there's been some from sales, some from advertising.
I've been in at the death of a magazine before, and it ain't pretty. (kaolin, NFG was three times a year, not four, no? because I remember that giving Shar problems with distribution.)
We've discussed going quarterly, we've discussed going online-only, we've discussed any number of ways to keep GUD going. But I guess we have to learn to live with uncertainty :D.
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday July 23, 2008 07:43am EDT
I ask because I saw that Kaolin's profile shows he's from CA. Most of the universities, junior colleges (I know Moorpark did (backwords it's Kraproom), state college etc have sci-fi enthusiast groups. Contact them. Send them a handful of freebies.
Dude, penetrade UCLA --- how many tens of thousands of students do they have? Ask to be a guest speaker at one of their meetings, hand out a few signed copies and offer a 10-15% discount to club members.
(Granted with the price of gas these days...making promo trips can be cost prohibitive...but, these club and presidents have email lists. Ask for them. Worst they can say is no.)
Local RPG groups, LARPers, comic book shops, you don't necessarily have to give out free subscriptions (maybe to the owner of the shop?) but leave a stack of flyers with a discount blurb on it.
And you all have business cards right? With your name and website address?
That you hand out daily?
(That you go to the comic/graphic novel/sci-fi section of your bookstore and slip in 1-2 every week...?)
There's lots of inexpensive ways to actively market. (And please, no one say "think outside the box. I'll shoot.)
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday July 23, 2008 07:58am EDT
Go get 'em.
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VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday July 23, 2008 08:07am EDT
I spent a few days cold-calling folks teaching creative writing at the college level across the state (well, mostly emailing; but one person only had a phone listed). That only produced one copy sent out gratis and a lot of frustration. :) That's marketing, right? ;) I'm definitely in the learning seat with all this.
Also have gotten freebies posted to two large library list-servs (need to see if I can push my luck and put the latest issue there...).
Facebook--on it as soon as I can take a breath without crying. Good call; we've got a GUD account but haven't figured out how to properly use it. I joined a bunch of groups that seemed relevant, but they all wound up being dead to the point that I couldn't stir them back up.
Marketing--our most successful marketing has to date been through MySpace, but that took obscene man-hours that I can't maintain at the moment. We're pretty social all over the place (and I'm pretty free with review copies and deals to bring people in).
Thank you. :)
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday July 23, 2008 08:45am EDT
Cold calls are terrible because they are always an interruption to the person you are calling...and quite frankly at the time you're a salesman...
Cold calls are emotionally bad because you get hung up on, cursed out, and well---unless you develop a thick skin it can just make you bitter and sour.
Cold calling creative writing teachers is a great way of potentially getting material in front of aspiring writers. Great if you're slush pile is lacking. I don't know of too many folks who'd complain of a lack of quantity in the ol' slush heap. (Quality, maybe.)
But what you really want is to find the consumer. Who is most likely to read my product? If you're wanting to conduct face-to-face or leave reading material then you have to ask yourself: where does my market segment gather? (..and then, maybe they don't.)
MySpace is a decent place to identify market segment but in truth, there are probably better. Just based upon the age demographic of MySpace users. I'd say Facebook is slightly better given a typically older demographic. However, you may find that college students are broke...and are constantly concerned about money. This is where an effective sales pitch comes in of how an annual subscription to your magazine outweighs the cost of buying off the shelf and benefits them financially etc...
Always remember that you're pitching to the principal of WIIFM (What's In It For Me?)
What do you like to read?
I like Steampunk!
What is it about Steampunk that gets you randy?
I like the zeppelins and steam trains and Victorian era attitude.
What if I could show you a way to get more steampunk delivered to your mailbox/emailbox. Would you be interested in reading from some of the best and brightest rising steampunk writers today?
Hell yeah sign me up for 10!
(a bit hackneyed, but...you get it?)
And don't stop at UCLA. Harvard's got an organization too... I'm sure someone in that private school's got enough money for a subscription.
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday July 23, 2008 08:59am EDT
I have to say, free content really seems to generate sales for me. I feel like there is no great sense of worth to what I put online until someone can buy it.I hope that doesn't sound overly cynical. I'm truly baffled that you can market small press stuff, that's really amazing.Is it all through word of mouth?
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday July 23, 2008 09:05am EDT
And what do you do for art? Is there a market for illustrators in small press?
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday July 23, 2008 09:20am EDT
We got the gorgeous "Flying Cat" in Issue Three by the latter method, and, if memory serves, we found cover artist Zak Jarvis by advertising on craigslist with my specs for the cover.
Art doesn't have to be "to match", although when we find a match we usually rejoice :). It just has to float our boat!
ASIM are also looking for art. I think they do more calls for art than we do, but I only read slush for them so I don't really know how that side of it works. Worth looking into though.
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There is a market for illustrators in the small press. Often you don't get any payment for your work, it's more the exposure. I rarely do internal art, but lots of places do. I'm fairly set for cover art, although now that I'm doing color covers...
BTW, I was up til 3 playing with you guys last night and then up again at 6 to get back to work...ugh, I am not young anymore
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday July 23, 2008 09:47am EDT
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Under my current circumstances, through some quirk of the fates, more and more of my income is based on order fulfillment. So yes please. My gmail account is matt dot mattarn.
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@john - you got sleep? *jealous* But then, I'm working... mostly... when I'm not distracted by this wonderful discussion. :)
@orchard/john - market for illustrators. I'm trying to compile such a listing. Anyone has juicy details, please do send :) There's also The Ivry Tower (visual arts listing) which is much more comprehensive than mine at the moment. :)
@fcoppersmith - kaleidotrope looks spiff (you've got an extra character at the end of the url throwing things off). I've got it up in a tab for further perusal as soon as I get the chance.*
Sleep. Need.
*fwibble
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Not that any of us have time for it, but it would be great if the listing could also have a bulletin board aspect to it so that illustrators and publishers could post about work.
And now I need to chide myself for getting so far off topic. :)
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday July 23, 2008 11:11am EDT
And agreed with you and orchard on the need for a more thorough art market resource. I've had some surprising luck with Pixish recently, but something more akin to Ralan or Duotrope would be a great help in targeting specific types of artwork. Right now, I still get plenty of illustrations that are very nice but that I unfortunately can't use (because they don't fit with the zine, because they're in color, etc.).
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I basically don't know the market(s) well enough to do a good job of things, but if we can stone-soup it I'm happy to move things forward :)
Part of it's just that I don't think enough artists know about GUD as an opportunity... and likely more markets as well. :)
_ALSO_ also trying to do a similar thing for reviewers, but someone else has started a better list that's getting more attention with updating, so I might should just link up to that.
Lack of sleep is definitely awkward. There was a topic, here. Contact info is on the listing site, feel free to contact me, and we'll see what can happen. :)
VIEW ALL BY · Wednesday July 23, 2008 12:05pm EDT
Also orchard, you may want to take a peek over at Irene Gallo's blog, as Art Director (AD) of Tor she might have written something you can find useful there about artists and the like. ;)
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I do buy the illustrators and graphic designer's market place as well as the children's book market place but those books are very broad. The best lists I can find are those in Spectrum annuals, that list where the art was published.Irene Gallo's blog is probably the best resource for genre artists on the web, along with James Gurney's blog and I visit them everyday.I've even made contacts through Ms. Gallo's blog like Bob Eggleton.
It would be great to have a listing with small press books and comic books too, there just isn't a list available like that. Not that I know of.
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I think for me the problem with online short fiction is I know it's likely to be there whenever I want to read it--there's no sense of urgency, and so somehow I never get round to it. The submissions process at Baen's Universe is fascinating and I'd love to be more involved, but my time has been pretty much consumed by GUD of late. Since approving GUD's final proof, I've been a fish without a pond.
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I think people are always going to be willing to pay more for an object they can hold in their hand than just straight data. I'm a big proponent of electronic publishing, but even I have that mindset to a certain degree. Something in hand just feels inherently more valuable. I bet the generation after me won't have that problem though.
Thursday July 24, 2008 10:32am EDT