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Jul 18 2008 3:03am
Starting a Joke with the Punch Line

I want to talk about my favorite joke, which is a famous joke, but if you haven't heard it, its "famous name" constitutes a spoiler. So, instead, a link! Reading it is not as good as having it told well (could John McCain tell it well? I have my doubts), but aficionados refer to It by its punch line (see), and once I start doing that I've ruined it for you. Another internet summary, that I don't have time to find now, refers to It as a "shaggy dog story" and implies that the joke is one of those deliberately "bad" jokes whose telling constitutes a kind of prank on the listeners, that its point is simply to subject them to all that windup before sliding an anticlimax right past them. That's such a stupid evaluation I can only feel contempt for it. In fact, the joke is full of terror and pity. Ultimately it is nothing but wisdom.

I would have thought that the connection between It and the story of Batman completely obvious, but The Google suggests that this may not be the case. (You need to have read or heard the joke before clicking on that last link!) Because, dude! that kid is obviously Bruce Wayne! And at the end, after all of that preparation and coping and forging himself into a mighty weapon, that singleness of purpose and abnegation, he is nothing but fumbling, inarticulate hurt.

This blog entry in honor of the 12:01 showing of The Dark Knight, for which I now depart. I don't know if they pay me to blog about superhero movies, as opposed to superhero comics, so I don't know if I'll have anything to say afterwards. But just in case: the Watchmen trailer is somewhat promising. Apparently, Dark-Knight-goers get to see it on the big screen.

11 comments
Patrick Nielsen Hayden
1. pnh
Of course that joke is the Batman story by other means.

"For criminals are a cowardly and rhetorically slippery lot. So I shall change myself into a bludgeon!" Much of the blogosphere is thus explained.
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2. heresiarch
I figured the joke was that "Fuck you, clown!" really was the ideal comeback in that situation.
Pablo Defendini
3. pablodefendini
It could be argued that "Fuck you, clown!" is the ideal comeback in any situation.
Lance Weber
4. LanceWeber
I can now attest that it is not ideal in any situation. My wife was not amused.
Annalee Flower Horne
5. Annalee
The Watchmen trailer looked promising right up until the part where they said Frank Miller was directing it.
Jim Henley
6. Supplanter
Annalee: I think it's being directed by Zach Snyder. Miller IS directing The Spirit.

Lance: Out of curiousity, was your wife unamused at the joke, or at being told, "Fuck you, clown?"

Heresiarch: That's true too. It's got layers, man, layers!
Tazistan Jen
7. Tazistan Jen
I wouldn't say that joke is *funny* exactly. More poignant or something.
Alex Cohen
8. AlexCohen
"Of course that joke is the Batman story by other means."

Which makes me wonder what other jokes are crypto-superhero origin stories.

"That's not all! This powerful legion of superheroes will also have a woman who can fly an invisible airplane!" "Wow, what will you call them?"
Jim Henley
9. Supplanter
Jen, I know that I laughed like crazy the first time I heard it. Of the times I've told it since, the laugh ratio is somewhat better than 50-50. There's definitely an art to putting it across, and I'm only fitfully successful at it.

Alex: That's awesome, actually.
Tazistan Jen
10. paulw
I think that, as with all other binary distinctions, there's something deep to be said about the people who do or don't laugh at that one.
Eric Scharf
11. EricScharf
Jim, I suppose this ought to be on the Dark Knight thread, but if you haven't already read it I highly recommend "Dying Is Easy, Comedy Is Hard" by Edward Bryant and Dan Simmons in The Further Adventures of the Joker.

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